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Old 03-03-2008, 04:58 PM   #15
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I know you guys are right but I hate admitting that I'm wrong!! Crap, back to square one. Hmmm maybe we'll paint it true pearl and call it Pearl but it doesn't sound all evil and mean like a pirate. The Black Pearl is the name of the pirate ship in "Pirates of the Caribean" that's where we got the idea from. We love those movies and love the pirate kinda theme. I'm sad now. I gotta figure out another strategy.

Any ideas??

We are Floridians and I do like our pink flamingos that we are known for but everyone has the pink flamingos. I want to be pirates!!
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:06 PM   #16
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We want to paint our Argosy black with a red stripe down the sides...
hi ckelly' and welcome to the forums!

i've seen pix of ONE argosy painted BLACK, it looked neat.

i don't care for black vehicles because they are so hard to keep looking clean...

but the "it will be lots hotter" warnings, aren't as absolute as most folks suggest.

there are many amateur experiments on this issue (black exteriors) making for hotter INTERIORS...

the results are ALL over the place and mostly contradictory.

while the painted surface temps may climb for darker colors, INTERIOIR temps don't change as much or at all.

IF the windows and skylights are covered to block solar penetration,

a black trailer might be 3-10 degrees hotter inside in direct sunlight and without a breeze.

it really depends more on WHERE the 'stream is parked (grass, sand, tarmack) than the surface color.

the painted skin section post in the 'red' thread is misleading in several obvious ways.

if YOU like black and wanna do it GOT FOR IT!

and to get some idea how your unit might look, take some pix and photochop/edit the color palate!

a black pearl/ metal flake paint scheme would look REALLY COOL! regardless of temperature.

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Old 03-03-2008, 05:12 PM   #17
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I know you guys are right but I hate admitting that I'm wrong!! Crap, back to square one. Hmmm maybe we'll paint it true pearl and call it Pearl but it doesn't sound all evil and mean like a pirate. The Black Pearl is the name of the pirate ship in "Pirates of the Caribean" that's where we got the idea from. We love those movies and love the pirate kinda theme. I'm sad now. I gotta figure out another strategy.

Any ideas??

We are Floridians and I do like our pink flamingos that we are known for but everyone has the pink flamingos. I want to be pirates!!
We had a 76 Argosy 24, it's name was the White Pearl inspired by that movie!

'the White Pearl'
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #18
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Harassment is relative. They have flamingos! Paint it what you want.

The black/interior heat deal aside….a black trailer had better have some Kick Butt bright lights on the rear at night!!

If I had an Argosy I’d go with the bumble bee theme.

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Old 03-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #19
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hi ckelly' and welcome to the forums!

i've seen ONE argosy painted BLACK, it looked neat.

i don't care for black vehicles because they are so hard to keep looking clean...

but the "it will be lots hotter" warnings, aren't as absolute as most folks suggest.

there are many amateur experiments on this issue (black exteriors) making for hotter INTERIORS...

the results are ALL over the place and mostly contradictory.

while the painted surface temps may climb for darker colors, INTERIOIR temps don't change as much or at all.

IF the windows and skylights are covered to block solar penetration,

a black trailer might be 3-10 degrees hotter inside in direct sunlight and without a breeze.

it really depends more on WHERE the 'stream is parked (grass, sand, tarmack) than the surface color.

the painted skin section post in the 'red' thread is misleading in several obvious ways.

if YOU like black and wanna do it GOT FOR IT!

and to get some idea how your unit might look, take some pix and photochop/edit the color palate!

a black pearl/ metal flake paint scheme would look REALLY COOL! regardless of temperature.
See, I read the same thing that the temp increases faster with black, but that they both will eventually reach the same or close temps. The interior would probably be mosty wood colors and we found this fabric with tattoo designs (pinups, hearts with a banner that say Amor, etc.). We'll do an experiment with it. Maybe park it under a black tarp and then a silver tarp and maybe a white one too. We'll see.

Thanks for your support!!
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pirates IS good, just no puffy shirts!

or u could skip the paint and wrap her in graphics!

i'm sure devoman (who is near you) could crank out a pirate theme graphic along the lines one of these...

see post #3 here and post #5...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f474...eam-19698.html

or some swoopy black pirate side stripes!

although the swoopy graphic folks often need a treatmentnrecovery program!

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f48/...-sob-4867.html

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how 'bout a nice military theme?
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:49 PM   #21
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2air might be a sage, but

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... while the painted surface temps may climb for darker colors, INTERIOIR temps don't change as much or at all. ...
Interior temps will rise slower because there is insulation between the interior & exterior skins.

Airstreams are not known for having that much insulation there. Read the threads on how much propane people use full-timing during the winter season.

I still think you are going to roast. Especially in Florida.

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... Read the threads on how much propane people use full-timing during the winter season...
but the 2 issues are very different.

convection, radiation, rising heat lost into the air, cold earth and so on, work against the furnace, but are partly WHY...

black vehicles are NOT as hot inside (when measured) as most folks believe.

the mythbuster guys measured a 10degree? different between black and white cars, and white is much cooler than silver, right?

NOW, that doesn't address how much extra work the ac might need to do for that 3-10 degree interior issue during swamp summers...

besides it is the humidity in florida that makes for misery.

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Old 03-03-2008, 06:18 PM   #23
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Southwest Airlines has a 737 painted like Shamu the killer whale at SeaWorld in San Antonio. After boarding the plane at Love Field in Dallas, I commented on how warm it was to the flight attendant. The attendant responded, “Yes, that’s why I’m wearing shorts. On every other plane, I wear slacks and a sweater.” The AC had been running ever since before dawn. At that time, it was the newest 737 in the air. It just couldn’t keep up when the plane was on the ground and didn’t have the option of drawing in cold air at altitude.

Good looking plane, though.
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We repainted our Argosy back to the original color. It's not all that difficult but can be expensive to have done professionally. You might get away with black if you could stand to paint the top a much lighter color. Here in Oklahoma, I wouldn't even attempt a darker trailer. You've got to consider why almost all trailers are light colored. Some of the big MHs are darker, but they are probably much better insulated than our vintage Argosys and have two AC units on them. I really liked the sage green primer we used and wanted to leave it at that, but got out voted. Have you considered a charcoal gray metallic with the red stripe?
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:45 PM   #25
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Have you considered a charcoal gray metallic with the red stripe
My husband came home an hour or 2 ago and we discussed the "black" idea. We both agreed that maybe it would cause more heat? I like the charcoal gray metallic with the red stripe (or maybe a black stripe). Or maybe a darker silver with a black stripe? Darker silver wouldn't have the same effect as black, would it?
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... Hmmm maybe we'll paint it true pearl and call it Pearl but it doesn't sound all evil and mean like a pirate. ...

Any ideas??

... I want to be pirates!!
Seems there was a treasure ship on its way back to port. About
halfway there, it was approached by a pirate, skull and crossbones waving
in the breeze!

"Captain, captain, what do we do?" asked the first mate.

"First mate," said the captain, "go to my cabin, open my sea
chest, and bring me my red shirt." The first mate did so.

Wearing his bright red shirt, the captain exhorted his crew to
fight. So inspiring was he, in fact, that the pirate ship was repelled
without casualties.

A few days later, the ship was again approached, this time by two
pirate sloops!

"Captain, captain, what should we do?"

"First mate, bring me my red shirt!"

The crew, emboldened by their fearless captain, fought heroically, and
managed to defeat both boarding parties, though they took many
casualties. That night, the survivors had a great celebration. The
first mate asked the captain the secret of his bright red shirt.

"It's simple, first mate. If I am wounded, the blood does not
show, and the crew continues to fight without fear."

A week passed, and they were nearing their home port, when
suddenly the lookout cried that ten ships of the enemy's armada were
approaching!

"Captain, captain, we're in terrible trouble, what do we do?"
The first mate looked expectantly at the miracle worker.

Pale with fear, the captain commanded, "First mate.... bring me my
brown pants!"

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