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09-19-2006, 11:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
1962 19' Globetrotter
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How Much POR 15?
How much POR !% should I order to do the entire frame and crossmenbers of a 62 19ft Globetrotter?? Thanks
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09-20-2006, 12:19 AM
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1965 17' Caravel
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Hi, Well it took about 3 qts to do my Caravel plus 1 qt. of silver for the bumper and tounge.
I'd say a gallon of black for the frame, wheels, wheel wells, and whatever else you want to do. Don't forget the topcoat for the exposed areas. You'll have a little bit left over probably.
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09-20-2006, 07:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
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No matter how much you get, get it in small cans (qts.). It's difficult to adequately reseal the can. I've only bought two quarts, but the second one had suffered some kind of internal leak into the lid seal groove, so the lid was basically welded to the can and I had to damage it to get it open--no resealing of that one!
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09-20-2006, 07:54 AM
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1973 27' Overlander
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Question: does the silver POR-15 discolor from UV exposure the way they warn the dark colors will? Thanks!
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09-20-2006, 08:02 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
No matter how much you get, get it in small cans (qts.). It's difficult to adequately reseal the can. I've only bought two quarts, but the second one had suffered some kind of internal leak into the lid seal groove, so the lid was basically welded to the can and I had to damage it to get it open--no resealing of that one!
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You can put a layer of Saran wrap over the can/under the lid before closing. It isolates the paint from the metal, and makes opening much easier.
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09-20-2006, 08:03 AM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
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Yucca Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wabbiteer
Question: does the silver POR-15 discolor from UV exposure the way they warn the dark colors will? Thanks!
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There is a product by POR15 that is called Stirling Silver.
It will not discolor in Sunlight.
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09-20-2006, 08:21 AM
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I used the silver (not Stirling) years ago on my steps and tongue and it did discolor/yellow some but it worked great and takes paint well. I seem to remember also that I could not get can open a week later without cutting.
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09-20-2006, 09:39 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
1962 19' Globetrotter
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Por 15
Thanks for the help. I think I will order 3 qts of the POR 15 and 1 0f the silver.
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09-20-2006, 09:48 AM
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Any online vendors who sell at discount?
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09-20-2006, 12:01 PM
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1973 27' Overlander
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Afraid the best I found was through POR-15 website with 4 quarts for an $8 premium over the gallon price. I chose 2 silver, one semi-gloss and one gloss black. Seems the gloss is more gel than semi-gloss, and aluminum has most filler (metallic aluminum) that may offer some insulation value..
The packaging was horrible - shredded newspaper w/ almost none on bottom of box, but 4 inches of crumpled newspaper on top! All cans arrived damaged but one was creased through bottom seam. I hate teaching people their jobs so I didn't throw it back at them...
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09-20-2006, 12:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Columbia
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Call me stupid but, what is POR 15?????????
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09-20-2006, 01:10 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
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POR 15 is a rust stabilizer for putting on rusty areas, like frames. They also make other products that cover the stabilizer. http://www.por15.com/. Check this website.
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09-20-2006, 01:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Columbia
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Thank you. How do you apply it?
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09-20-2006, 01:39 PM
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Wabbiteer,
I second your comment on poor packaging. I just received a two quart shipment both cans dented, one can leaking. I called them, explained the problem and suggested they need to do a better job of packing their product for shipment. I don't think of this as teaching them their job rather I think of it as perhaps helping the next guy out that might otherwise receive a poorly packaged and therefore damage shipment.
DFK
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09-20-2006, 01:46 PM
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I've never used POR15, but could you purchase the gallon size for economy, then transfer to "disposable" plastic quart containers? I do this with house paints and wood finishes all the time.
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09-20-2006, 01:55 PM
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Silver Mist
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I would not use disposable, I would get quart cans, I think HD will sell them.
That way they are air tight.
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09-20-2006, 01:58 PM
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Air-tightness is not an issue, although there may be some other reason not to use plastic. If you purchase the plastic containers made for paint products, the lids seal nicely. Do it all the time.
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09-20-2006, 02:29 PM
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1973 27' Overlander
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It is a moisture cured paint, water vapor is the catalyst. Unless you have a deep tub filled w/ dry nitrogen gas and ensure no normal atmosphere intrudes the moist air will start the process of turning it into a solid.
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09-20-2006, 02:49 PM
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A trick my grandfather used to due with shellacs that loved to absorb water was to do the saran wrap trick under the lid and on down onto the surface of the product to kill the airspace above it. Seemed to work for a long time.
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09-20-2006, 05:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
1962 19' Globetrotter
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it can be applied with a brush
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