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Old 02-04-2014, 08:03 AM   #1
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diamond satin clear coat

has anyone tried this clear coat for bare metal?

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No I have not tried it but I would talk to the manufacture about surface prep and how they deal with the oxide layer that aluminum forms that usually makes it hard for many coatings to stick without some sort of surface prep like alodine.

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I did!

I installed all new interior aluminum and chose Diamond Brite to protect the new aluminum shine and surface. I talked with their Folks, and followed their instructions to the letter. It turned out horrible. I even had to replace one entire roof panel. In their response they said "oops!" we really did not want you to use MEK as a prep cleaner. It leaves a residue which will ruin the application. Yep....it did. On the new roof panel they gave me instructions as to how to use more of their prep cleaner. I followed those instruction and found out that the cleaner was an acid etch type which now converted the new panel to a cloudy surface. The Company refused to make good on any of it. They did, however, respond fast to all my questions and follow up....big help that was. All that work and expense pissed away.
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has anyone tried this clear coat for bare metal?

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Experimenting with a clear coat can become real expensive.

Stay with what has been used for many years.

It works.

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I am thinking that the old school clear coat used on early Airstreams was a clear lacquer, if I was going to clear an Airstream that is what I would use for several reasons, with repairability and film thickness being a couple of important reasons.

Applying any product over a polished surface is going to have adhesion issues. This just is.
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what works ?

what works ? The clear coat used by Airstream has changed over the years.

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Experimenting with a clear coat can become real expensive.

Stay with what has been used for many years.

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I am thinking that the old school clear coat used on early Airstreams was a clear lacquer, if I was going to clear an Airstream that is what I would use for several reasons, with repairability and film thickness being a couple of important reasons.

Applying any product over a polished surface is going to have adhesion issues. This just is.
I am not sure what the old plasticote was, but it certainly was not lacquer based.

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what works ? The clear coat used by Airstream has changed over the years.
The new style clearcoat, CANNOT be applied in the field.

Airstream cannot apply it to the new metal.

The newest Plasticoat is a 2 part system, and is still available, since it's the only material that can be applied in the field.

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who sales it?

where can I buy it ?

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The new style clearcoat, CANNOT be applied in the field.

Airstream cannot apply it to the new metal.

The newest Plasticoat is a 2 part system, and is still available, since it's the only material that can be applied in the field.

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just curious but are you coating the interior skin or exterior?
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diamond satin clear coat

I read somewhere it was a lacquer but I didn't proof it, I will submit to your expertise Andy!

Now I am curious as to what they did use.

Did AS start clearing in the 60 s?

I know my 72 was cleared, whatever it was, what little was left in the few areas where the sun didn't burn it off was very thin.
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My bad, exterior

I did the interior last year and ran out of time before camping season. This year I plan on doing the exterior, hopefully It will be ready before camping season.

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That acid etch is what preps the surface for the clear coat. If you want plastic over a mirror surface, I don't think you are going to get that. The only way a polish works is to keep it polished. I am not sure how Airstream did their old trailers. I expect it was a complicated expensive process and that is why they cheaped out and are using this factory coated junk on the new trailers. A good clear coat will etch the surface and that is why the finish looks kinda dull with the old clear coat. I expect it is the etch. I expect the old panels were dipped in an alodine solution rinsed dried then painted.

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I installed all new interior aluminum and chose Diamond Brite to protect the new aluminum shine and surface. I talked with their Folks, and followed their instructions to the letter. It turned out horrible. I even had to replace one entire roof panel. In their response they said "oops!" we really did not want you to use MEK as a prep cleaner. It leaves a residue which will ruin the application. Yep....it did. On the new roof panel they gave me instructions as to how to use more of their prep cleaner. I followed those instruction and found out that the cleaner was an acid etch type which now converted the new panel to a cloudy surface. The Company refused to make good on any of it. They did, however, respond fast to all my questions and follow up....big help that was. All that work and expense pissed away.
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Some folks on the forum, myself included, have been using Nyalic® on corrosion repair areas with excellent results. It is regularly used in marine applications on aluminum bare metal for full boat coverage. I am unaware of anyone that has done their entire Airstream with it but I read somewhere that it had been done with good results. It has to be very carefully applied, but something to consider none-the-less.
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