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Old 02-19-2008, 11:53 AM   #15
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:12 PM   #16
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For more on this 23' layout see this thread 2008 Airstream Safari 23FB Queen
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I really like the floorplan but I wish Airstream would offer a sofa option in place of the dinette on this one and others.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #17
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I like it. Too bad this wasn't available when I bought my 20' a year and a half ago. Will have to stop and check one of these out when I get the chance.........
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:31 PM   #18
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Sway and it's causes

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The door should be up front. This is going to be another "fishtailer" due to the axel placement. Didn't they learn anything from the Argosy 22' rear door? Darol
Please send me the link. I have never heard of the swaying problem related to the rear door trailer. Thanks...
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:49 PM   #19
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I really like the floorplan but I wish Airstream would offer a sofa option in place of the dinette on this one and others.
Airstream offered this option on the now discontinued 22' CCD International after John Irwin rebuilt his (starting here) to add this very feature. There probably would be an additional change order charge if you can get them to agree at all on a new unit order.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:13 PM   #20
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Nice floorplan. If any of these had been around when we ordered our 25' SS back in late '03 as an '04, I might have been convinced to go this route instead.

What are the capacities of the tanks (fresh, gray and black)? Anyone know?
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:36 PM   #21
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Okay, here's some relevant numbers with tongue weight found at NeatAirstream's previous thread on this model.
GVWR - 6000#
UBW (curb wt) - 4821
Tongue weight - 500#

With the rear toilet I figure fresh & gray tanks are forward of the axles and the black tank is behind the axles. Put on WD gear & propane in the tanks and tongue weight would be closer to 600# before you put any gear aboard this trailer. This keeps tongue weight well north of 10% of trailer weight in almost all practical situations. That's a formula for stable towing. Now for some customers to report back!

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Currently, Airstream is offering this new floor plan with the dinette booth only. There have not been any discussions to go forward with Sofa/Gaucho in place of the dinette.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:37 PM   #22
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Very nice floorplan but did you notice the big "wheel box" under the table?

Strange design....
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:54 PM   #23
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Very nice floorplan but did you notice the big "wheel box" under the table?
Yes -- as noted in the 2008 Airstream Safari 23FB Queen thread -- being the reason I brought up John Irwin's conversion 4 posts ago. There's just not enough space for everything + a bed in these shorter trailers. Especially with double axles.

Nobody has brought up the Classic-style window behind the door that cannot be left open with kids around. Or in a wind. I still love the full opening Classic windows on my Safari SE. I had those on my Argosy too. Circulation is so great that I'm sold in favor of this one point for any Airstream (compared to base model Safari/Hehr windows).
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:09 PM   #24
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ery nice floorplan but did you notice the big "wheel box" under the table?

Strange design....

Maybe I'm missing something but what is so "strange" about the wheel box under the dinette? My 20' has exactly the same thing and it doesn't cause me a bit of problem.
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:14 PM   #25
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Why would one want a full-size bed set up all day long... instead of a couch that you can turn into a bed in a few seconds? Wouldn't it be a lot more practical?
I once owned a 23-foot 1979 Safari that had a similar floor plan, with a sofa in the front. The wardrobe, the refrigerator, the range and the sink were in the reverse order than what is shown above.
I sold the trailer, but after a while I wanted to buy it back... I was never able to convince the new owner... :-(
Note: the door was also up front...
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:24 PM   #26
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Is there a place for adult leg when 4 people are sitted ?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:00 PM   #27
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This is a two-person trailer.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:31 PM   #28
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For me it is a one person trailer.
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