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Old 05-03-2016, 10:08 AM   #29
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In twenty years there will be very very few thirty year old vehicles. The lifespan of modern vehicles will coincide with the lifespan of the wire insulation (which is not what it used to be) and availability of assorted electronic components.


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Do you have some evidence/studies for this?

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Old 05-03-2016, 10:22 AM   #30
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Of course not, Bart. It's clearly an opinion. So, now you're just trolling. 😉
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Do you have some evidence/studies for this?

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I have observational skills.

After about 20 years the modern wiring insulation crumbles off of the wires especially in high heat areas.

The insulation that is used now is very durable in the short term, but under performs in the long term.

Once the wiring becomes generally bad, the cost of repair, and the difficulty in repair will be prohibitive.

Add to this that components used all over vehicles, (window switches, actuators, dash controls, etc) often utilize microprocessors, they will not be economical for the aftermarket to support.

While it is true that modern vehicles are in many ways superior, I do not think that this will translate into the years of viability that we have become accustomed to.

Even today, new vehicles that incur electronic gremlins can be difficult to resolve, this will get even worse as vehicles age.

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Interesting opinion.

I have a '96 Lincoln Mark VIII that will be voting in November. No issues with wiring or the insulation of same. While there have been some electronic component failures of some sensors and actuators none of the wire insulation that makes the connections has been a concern.

And the environment that my Mark operates in couldn't be much hotter.

Just my opinion, I own 9 vehicles with 4 of them made before 1972. The older vehicles are very simple to make repairs however the construction is far inferior to vehicles made in the last 20 years. Inferior in material, design and assembly. Maintenance is so much easier on the newer vehicles. Not that there are no issues because everything built has issues. For the most part the issues have a swifter and easier fix. (However usually more expensive)

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Why does Airstream do this?

The insulation will begin to crumble near the plugs and connectors first and then progresses.

Get back with me in ten years.


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The insulation will begin to crumble near the plugs and connectors first and then progresses.

Get back with me in ten years.


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I had a 93 Mercedes 300e that had the main wiring harness replaced before I bought it in 2000. By the time I got rid of it in 2009 or 2010, the ancillary harnesses were falling apart. This because MB decided to go with a "green" insulation material and process.

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Even if it turns out that wiring itself is not an issue, there will be a lot of components that will be replaceable "salvage only", which itself is going to be problematic.


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