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Old 11-21-2015, 06:19 PM   #57
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Perhaps the poster of #49 should talk to Michelin NA headquarters in Greenville SC and see what they say about their tires on a travel trailer and what they say about AS mounting them at the factory.
One wonders if my Costco warranty just means if I bring it into Costco they'll replace it, but if I try a claim with Michelin they'll deny it. Seems like a legitimate question.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:08 PM   #58
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The least of our concern is the warranty on our Airstream's 16" Michelins. In the highly unlikely event they will fail, the most we can lose it the price of a new tire minus pro-rating.

We gain a highly reliable tire, as opposed to the original warranted GYM's which may take out the wheel well metal with it in the likely event it will fail.
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Old 11-22-2015, 02:55 AM   #59
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CanAm recommended we run 44 psi in the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires we mounted on our 2013 25FB International Serenity. The axles saw 5,860 pounds camping ready as compared to the derated capacity of the four tires being 7,940 pounds. That is about a 30% safety margin.

Note that our 25FB and several others had about 200 pounds more weight on the curb side rear tire than the other three that caused more tire wear in that location.

We are also running the recommended 44 psi in the same Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires installed on the 2015 23D International Serenity that has a 6,000 pound GVW versus the 7,300 pound GVW of the 25FB. We plan the first outing in early December and will check the scales with all the "stuff" aboard. The safety margin should be much higher on the 23D.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:38 AM   #60
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Perhaps the poster of #49 should talk to Michelin NA headquarters in Greenville SC and see what they say about their tires on a travel trailer and what they say about AS mounting them at the factory.
You have to be very careful HOW you ask the question concerning using LT tires on a trailer.

If you ask about replacing ST tires with LT tires, you are likely to get a negative response, but if you ask if LT can be used on a travel trailer, you're likely to get a positive response.
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Old 11-22-2015, 10:27 AM   #61
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One wonders if my Costco warranty just means if I bring it into Costco they'll replace it, but if I try a claim with Michelin they'll deny it. Seems like a legitimate question.
That's the impression I am getting.
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:35 PM   #62
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So derated those Defenders would carry 2064# per tire.

Sorry the Michelin model LTX MS/2 P235/75-15 108T XL when de-rated correctly is rated for 1,985# @ 50 psi.


2.183/1.10 = 1984.5 is the correct way to do the tire math.
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:43 PM   #63
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While your trailer should be insured against damage, a major tire incident is not a freebee. The deductable has to be paid along with all the expenses associated with getting the trailer to a repair location and the loss of personal time dealing with the situation. Not every Airstream dealer has a factory trained metal smith.

Unless one gets under the trailer to see the other side of the tire to check for abnormal bulges or cracks and moves the trailer a few feet after the initial visual inspection to see the part of the tread that was in contact with the pavement at first, a thorough inspection was not done.

My experience with the GYM tires was air pressure went down in less than two weeks of storage. My Michelins maintain pressure for months while the trailer is stored.

So checking the GYM tire pressure every morning while the tires are cool with a precision digital tire gage and having an air compressor along to top up the pressure to 65 psi would be prudent while maintaining a speed at 65 mph or lower on hot days like in the Southwest in the summer.

When buying a new trailer that has been on the dealer's lot a long time (check the data tag on the street side front of the trailer for the build year and month), also check the tire manufacture date which is a four digit number (week-week-year-year). If the tires are already a year old, see if part of the deal can be new tires. Folks here have strongly suggested a three year from date of manufacture life cycle for the GYM tires.
Checking tire pressure in the AM only tells you that you already have a leak. I does nothing to warn you of any leak that occurs as you pull out of the campground or travel down the highway or even if you caused a leak with the valve core having a bit of grit allowing a slow ( 1 psi per minute) leak which was the probable reason for this failure

Maybe you need a TPMS or at least need to read my web page blog on tire leak and failures.
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Sorry the Michelin model LTX MS/2 P235/75-15 108T XL when de-rated correctly is rated for 1,985# @ 50 psi.


2.183/1.10 = 1984.5 is the correct way to do the tire math.
The defenders are the replacements for the other ones and are 109.woops, might not be available in fifteen inch.
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