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09-05-2016, 11:11 AM
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PSU1981
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Conroe
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 284
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Which Centramatic Wheel Balancers on 2015 27FB FC?
Ok - after reading all weekend on what wheel & tire I am going to upgrade from GYM 15" to Michelin 16" (LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2) & 16" SenDel Silver Machined T03-66655T I am now trying to decide what on type of Centramatic Wheel Balancers?
Advise?
Most people using them or is this seen as over kill?
As Always - thanks!
Glenn
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09-05-2016, 12:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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We changed to 16" Michelins to have high quality, dependable tires for our extended travel and had them balanced and installed by a reputable tire shop. We traveled many thousands of miles over five years without any cabinet hardware, doors, drawers, shaking loose in our Airstream, everything including the recliner chairs sitting loose on the floor remain in place.
That's as good as it gets, no Centramatics needed. Or TPMS to monitor best quality tires that really don't need monitoring, and may not protect from a sudden failure and trailer damage even if we did.
Another consideration is the Nevr Lube bearings which require zero offset wheels, Centramatics move them slightly off zero offset.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
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09-06-2016, 06:20 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Your 16" wheels have the same bolt pattern and should have the same offset as the OEM 15's. The standard Centramatic Airstream number should work.
Give them a call to confirm
It's recommended that the wheels be road force balanced before installation.
POI....the # for our '03 Classic is 200221-204 "special" AIRSTREAM
IMO...the Centramatic is a worthwhile $199 peace-of-mind investment.
Bob
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09-06-2016, 06:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I have the same trailer. I put Centramatics on my factory 15 inch wheels and it has made a noticeable difference in how much less things are disturbed inside the trailer after a drive.
Mike
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09-06-2016, 12:41 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
GILBERT
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 377
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Done over 10,000 miles last 15 months with Michelin 16" (LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2)and no problems.
Sometimes you can empty your bank account adding all these upgrades that are no needed like Centramatics or TPMS.
We run ours at 60lb a tire and the ride is smooth as a baby bottom.
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2015 FC 25' RB
2013 Chevy Tahoe LTZ
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09-06-2016, 02:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Your 16" wheels have the same bolt pattern and should have the same offset as the OEM 15's. The standard Centramatic Airstream number should work.
Give them a call to confirm
It's recommended that the wheels be road force balanced before installation.
POI....the # for our '03 Classic is 200221-204 "special" AIRSTREAM
IMO...the Centramatic is a worthwhile $199 peace-of-mind investment.
Bob
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What he said^
These are the ones I have on my trailer.
The Centramatics for a 6-lug Jeep may also work...
I called them and ordered over the phone.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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09-06-2016, 02:50 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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I ordered 300-356 for the Jeep 5.5 it's the same bolt pattern, and they are larger. Thousands of miles and no problems.
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09-06-2016, 03:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 111
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Six bolt patten/
Centramatics knew exactly which one to ship. You can read until you're cross eyed on AirForums about wheel balancer's and TPMS. I have a hard time believing that such a minuscule change has any negative effects.
TPMS- Saved us from a devastating fire last Sunday night. While driving south through Oklahoma (worst roads in America?) on Hwy 69 I noticed the temperature spike on one one wheel, but not a huge increase in pressure. Just as I pulled off the road to check it out the DILL preset alarm sounded. I jumped out of the truck and got to the passenger side trailer wheels and could smell something burning. When I got close to the wheel I could feel the heat on my face. The alloy wheel was to hot to touch and I went for a fire extinguisher just in case!
It's a 2016 Pendleton built last March and the wheel wells on the passenger side are right below the kitchen. A fire would have been catastrophic. My little extinguisher would have done very little and the tiny town of Kiowa OK probably doesn't have a fire department.
Will always have TPMS from here on. Was a little skeptical at first but it performed flawlessly.
Used Coach.net and had a wrecker come the next morning. Fortunately there was an old RV park just a few blocks away and we pulled in for the night. I was expecting more from the service company but he did get the wheel and drum off and yanked out all of the burnt up brake parts. We pulled cautiously with only one axle braking but made it home (Austin TX) just fine. Warranty will replace the entire hub including the bearings.
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09-06-2016, 06:21 PM
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PSU1981
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Conroe
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 284
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Thanks everyone !!
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09-06-2016, 07:14 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...rs-147109.html
Lots of info on Centras in that thread. The right part number is provided there.
Checkout post 21 for the reason you should purchase Centramatics.
Centramatics are not a replacement for a dynamic balance of the wheel and tire prior to installation.
Travel smooth. Pat
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09-06-2016, 08:06 PM
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Richard
2006 30' Classic S/O
Merced
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 79
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Am I missing something here
I know what centramatics are and am not finding any fault with them, but why don't folks simply have their tires balanced just like you do for your TV? I have been across the US four times and as far as I know nothing in my 2006 Classic 30/SO is shaking apart. Do folks who use centramatics use them rather than having the tires balanced or in addition to spin balance?
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09-06-2016, 08:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I have the tires balanced, too.
Balancing the wheels and tires is a good thing.
Centramatics balance the entire running gear- break drums, hubs, bearings and wheels and tires.
I can actually tell a difference.
Things in the trailer don't move around as much.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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09-06-2016, 10:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB Classic
Cambridge
, New York
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 458
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Granted, it's "belt and suspenders". But it works. I bring my TV in to have the tires rotated and balanced every 5,000 miles. They put it on the lift and zip, zip, zip. Much harder to do with an Airstream - can't go on a lift, so one wheel at a time. I had my new Michelin tires mounted and balanced on my new rims by my local tire shop, Then I put them on the trailer (with torque wrench!) and put on Centramatics as well (call them for the right one - they're very helpful and knowledgeable!) Now the trailer axles will self balance even if there is mud up on the wheels or if one of the balance weights come off. Pleased so far...
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09-09-2016, 11:38 AM
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PSU1981
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Conroe
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 284
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Centramatic Customer Support
These guys were excellent - talk to Jerry - he will get you fixed up!
Ordered on Wednesday -- delivered UPS the next day!
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09-09-2016, 12:34 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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I put them on. Can't say that I can actually tell the difference. We still get some things moving around and every now-and-then an open drawer. But it seems better than without them. Not long ago I left a open glass of iced tea on the refrig shelf. It was still there after driving awhile. Didn't do that on purpose but I'm happy with the centramatics. I also have the wheels balanced the traditional way.
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