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Old 04-21-2015, 05:54 PM   #1
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Wheel well clearance - 16" wheels/tires

I just bought a 2004 31' Classic. The 15" Goodyears are 2 years beyond date so am upgrading to 16" wheels & tires, selected based on much research on these forums.

Sendel Wheels T03 16 x6. #66655T
Michelin Tires. LTX M/S2. LT 225/75R16/115 E1 BSW
I am away from the trailer for a while...today the tire guy called and is concerned about wheel well clearance with the new wheels/tires. He measures 1 1/8" clearance with the old 15" setup and is concerned that the 1/4" clearance with the 16s (his estimate) will cause rubbing on the lower wheel well trim. Any thoughts?

Did I order the wrong tires?
Is this just an issue with the 2004?
If I remove the wheel well trim (screwed on) will I gain the needed clearance?

Many folks report no clearance problems, so what gives?

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Old 04-21-2015, 06:21 PM   #2
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I put the same tire on my 1985 29' Sovereign and the TO2 wheels I didn't have any problem . My tires didn't have 115 E1 on them though I did mine in 2013 .
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Gotta be model specific. I certainly have more than 1/4" of clearance between the top of my 16" tires and the wheel well. Need some help from someone with your specific model. That IS the correct tire BTW.
Sorry I couldn't help you more.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:52 PM   #4
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It won't cause an issue, and his estimate seems off.
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Agreed BoldAdventure, 100%. His estimate has GOT to be off...way off.
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Old 04-21-2015, 07:44 PM   #6
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Clarifying photos

To clarify the issue, here are 2 photos - the first just shows 15" tire/wheel and near clearance to lower wheel well trim. The second shows a ruler demonstrating the 1 1/8" clearance. It does look like upgrading to 16" tires/wheels will close that gap a lot...but I can't tell if that's a problem or not.
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Interesting, I'll have to measure mine, I know mine is extremely close too, but I don't see that tire ever moving forward and rubbing.

Now, I can't speak to your model, could be wrong, just throwing things out there on opinion at the moment.
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:02 AM   #8
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The new tires will only be 1" bigger in diameter than your marathons . 0" offset is what your rims need to be
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My 16" tires leave about 1.25" clearance. Did about the same on my '05 20'. Measuring to the bright trim is a bit deceiving, it's really the inner part of the well that might touch the tire. Unless you don't have 0" offset wheels as woodfox45 mentions.
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To clarify the issue, here are 2 photos - the first just shows 15" tire/wheel and near clearance to lower wheel well trim. The second shows a ruler demonstrating the 1 1/8" clearance. It does look like upgrading to 16" tires/wheels will close that gap a lot...but I can't tell if that's a problem or not.
it appears that the skirt was cut a bit too long and curved at that point, is it exactly the same on the other side?
This pieces are not precut when installed, something you will find out when you order a replacement panel.
Remedy:
Take trim off and cut the skirt back 1/2" or so and reinstall trim.
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Measurements

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I just went up to the storage facility and put the stick on her. I had an inch on the fwd tire, and about an inch & a quarter on the rear. Sorry for the blurred second pic. What surprised me the most was just how much clearance I had from the top of the tire to the wheel well itself. I sent a PM to BoldAdventure asking about his clearance as we have similar rigs before ordering the tires. He said "no issue", so I broke out the AmEx card. My measurement this AM is a whopping 4" of clearance. I would be more concerned with the height, than I would be on the front & rear.
I would ask your tire guy to confirm his stick skills.
Wish I lived closer to you. I'd pull one of mine and we could see if that trim does become a factor.
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16" Wheels & Tires Clearance

In March 2015 I installed Sendel T03 16" wheels and Michelin LTX M/S2 tires with no clearance problems on my 2005 AS Classic 25.

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Old 04-23-2015, 03:45 PM   #13
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16" Michelin fit fine on 2008 30' Classic

Just installed 16" Michelin LTX M/S2 LT225/75R16 on the Sendel wheels and they fit fine on my 2008 30' Classic.
No issues whatsoever!
Go for 'em!
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Old 04-23-2015, 04:58 PM   #14
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16" wheel well clearance - resolution

First, thanks to all who commented - it helped me make a final decision - especially the comment about these skin sections and trim being essentially a one-off fit. I got to the trailer and agreed with the tire guy that the 16" wheels/tires would cause problems on both side of this AS.

I had originally wanted the 16" combo in order to get away from GYMs. Thinking that there was no suitable 15" 10-ply pushed me to the 16s. The tire guy found these:

Maxxis M8008ST Radial ST225/75R15/10

which I discovered have an excellent reputation as a 10 ply ST tire. I got them and they are now installed on the original wheels.

We'll see - and thanks again!
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