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11-03-2003, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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Wheel sizes and pricing?
I'm getting to the point where I am ready to put new tires on my trailer and am thinking of going with new wheels also. Might as well do it right, and then I can use one of the originals for a spare. I have read a lot about the weight rating of the wheels, but I am not sure of the other specs. I found this information on an internet search. Could someone let me know if I am on the right track? And is this a good price? Thanks!
Oh yeah. 72 Overlander.
Size= 15" x 6"
Wt. Capacity= 2600
Offest= 0
Bolt Pattern= 6 on 5 1/2
Pilot diameter= 4.27
Color= SILVER
Price Ea.= $28.16
The site I found these at is..... http://www.lowcosttrailersupplies.co...egory_Code=MTW
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11-03-2003, 03:19 PM
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Rivet Master
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Wheels
I would double check the pilot diameter and offset- mine are 3.62 and +.50" I don't know how much switching around happened between '59 and '72, but the pilot on my new Dexter hubs is still 3.62.
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11-03-2003, 06:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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I'll keep checking. Thanks.
I know what offset is, but what is Pilot Diameter?
If anyone else knows about the wheels I'll need, it would be greatly appreciated.
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11-03-2003, 07:12 PM
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Rivet Master
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Wheels
Pilot diameter is the hole in the center of the wheel. It can be critical whether the wheel is 'hub-centric' or 'stud-centric', meaning how the wheel is centered on the axle. Wheels that center on the stud bolt circle usually use different style cone nuts.
An interesting tid-bit: Lots of wheels are manufactured with the center hole slightly off center. This helps match up wheels and tires, since most tires are slightly off center also.
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11-03-2003, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
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Re: Wheels
Quote:
Originally posted by markdoane
An interesting tid-bit: Lots of wheels are manufactured with the center hole slightly off center. This helps match up wheels and tires, since most tires are slightly off center also.
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I ran into this problem with my Popup They tire shop that was balancing my tires told me they were junk and needed to be replaced...but I knew better All I needed was a new tire shop . I was wondering if it would be an issue with the AS or not. I am not quite to that point with mine...yet. But balancing the running gear will be coming up soon.
Aaron
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02-10-2004, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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I just wanted to run this by everyone again in hopes of some direction.
Would the following specs on new wheels be what I need for my 72 Overlander?
Thanks!
Size= 15" x 6"
Wt. Capacity= 2600
Offest= 0
Bolt Pattern= 6 on 5 1/2
Pilot diameter= 4.27
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02-10-2004, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
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Wheel size
Don't have specific info on your year, but most of the wheels I've seen for Dexter or Reliable axles are 3.62 pilot diameter. /the other numbers look right.
Easy to check, just measure the center hole.
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02-11-2004, 02:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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Thanks.... My problem is that I am not sure the wheels on my trailer are original to take dimensions off of, as the fronts and rears are different. I don't want to duplicate the wrong wheels.
I don't/shouldn't assume that because they are on the trailer that they are correct. Correct?
Anyone with a 72 or around there with a dual axle?
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02-11-2004, 06:02 AM
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Still Working
1994 36' Classic 36
North Charleston
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Guess Shot
I am not certain but I dont believe the baby moon caps were OEM in 72. The forward wheel appears to be a wheel that is suited for a baby moon cap.
The rear wheel looks like the ones I am used to seeing in the 70's.
But they could all be non original as far as that goes.
Smily
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02-11-2004, 07:14 AM
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Another wild guess
Actually, the rear wheel with the clips inside the hub dome will accept the baby moons, those were stock on my 1971 Tradewind (non International) with baby moon hubcaps.
The front wheel is of a later vintage, I believe. Those look like the wheels sold as new Airstream stell wheel replacements. They cab use a hub cap that fits over the hub dome.
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02-11-2004, 06:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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Ok, so no takers on this issue? That's it! I'm selling the Airstream and getting an SOB!
Seriously... anyone know what the specs should be for steel wheels for a 72 Overlander? Thanks again.
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02-11-2004, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 22' Caravanner
Atlanta
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Andy has some info up on www.inlandrv.com I seem to recall.
Uhhh btw...your axle is bad.
If the arms are horizontal or angled up from the pivot point they are goners.
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1988 R20 454 Suburban.
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02-11-2004, 06:54 PM
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418
2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Sneakinup,
Your rear wheels are identical in look to the wheels that came stock on my 1971 Tradewind.
I would assume then, if you use the rear wheels for measurements, that you can go by these measurements.
You can fit a 15X7 wheel in there, no problem. The offset is more critical.
Do you know how to measure the offset?
Ok, if the mounting flange is in the center of the wheel rim, then the offset would be "0"
Positive offset moves the flange to the inside of the wheel, making it stick out more.
Negative offset would bring the flange outwards, like on many front wheel drive cars.
you would want an offset close to zero, in my estimation, or slightly positive.
My concern with the 4 28.00 wheel is runout and stud centric construction.
If they wobble, then you're wasting your time, and money. I would buy wheels at a place where they can set them up on a balancer so you can see if they run true.
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03-05-2004, 12:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
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Ok, I think I found them.
Size= 15" x 6"
Wt. Capacity= 2600
Offest= 0
Bolt Pattern= 6 on 5 1/2
Pilot diameter= 3.62
Color= Black
Price= $33.79 Each
Redneck Trailer Supplies
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03-15-2004, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
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For anyone that wants to know what the wheel specs are for a 72 Overlander, they are as I had listed in my post above. The only difference is that they are gray, and not black.
I just picked up 4 of them. In stock at Redneck, as well as 4 new complete brakes/backing plates. 12 x 2. Attaching bolts and a new break away switch.
They seem very knowledgeable at this company, and while I was there... an old "real redneck" recognized my drums that I brought in. He owns 2 Airstreams that are sitting on a lot rotting away. He is converting them in to permanant mobile homes (oxymoron). He laughed when I told him I was actually going to tow mine. He said, "them things are really heavy!" "Oh, and them bathrooms just rot out the floors and the air conditioners are junk. I'm a fixin to build a wooden box on top for a window AC." I was cringing thinking about how he was going to ruin these trailers. I offered to buy them from him, but he didn't want to sell. LOL Just what I need, 2 more money pits!
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