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05-20-2016, 02:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Pinehurst
, North Carolina
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Wheel Lug torque Spec?
New 15" Sendel wheels and Michelin tires arrive next week for our 2015 23FB.
Question: I assume the OEM lug nut spec of 110 ft./lbs of torque still applies.
Am I correct?
Thanks.
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05-20-2016, 02:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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My manual says 110 to 120. I set to 115.
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05-20-2016, 06:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
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On my '15 FC, the Manuel speaks extensively on the importance of correctly torquing your wheels, and checking them at 10, 25, and 100 miles. But nowhere does it say what the torque values should be.
So I emailed Sendel, and asked. They said there should be a sticker on the trailer with the torque values, but if there is I can't find it. They also said industry standards are from 90-110 for their 15 inch wheels.
So I emailed customer service at Jackson Center, and got a reply from Craig Weir, who stated that the torque values for my wheels (Sendel T02 15) were from 110-120.
Mike
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05-21-2016, 06:10 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Pinehurst
, North Carolina
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Thanks.
Torque specs for 2015 Flying Cloud models are published here:
https://www.airstream.com/wp-content...Cloud_2015.pdf
That's where I retrieved the 110 ft./lb MAX torque value for aluminum wheels.
(Page 4-4)
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05-21-2016, 06:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randakk
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Oh my, what a dolt I am. I was looking in the wrong place in my owners manual and could not find the values. It is in section 4. Thx Randakk.
Mike
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05-21-2016, 07:43 AM
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2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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I have always used 115 ft. lbs. on my 16" Sendel T03's. I mark it above the wheel wells as a reminder.
Brian
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05-21-2016, 07:59 AM
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2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Visiting Jackson Center Service Center last month we had our 16" Sendel wheels/Michelin tires rotated, brakes and bearings checked. I asked the tech what torque they used. 110 ft lbs for 15" aluminum wheels/tires, 120 ft lbs for 16" aluminum wheels. So that's what we use. They also put a sticker on the entrance door to recheck torque at specific mileages after wheel service, I don't remember the exact mileage.
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05-21-2016, 10:22 AM
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jackson center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randakk
New 15" Sendel wheels and Michelin tires arrive next week for our 2015 23FB.
Question: I assume the OEM lug nut spec of 110 ft./lbs of torque still applies.
Am I correct?
Thanks.
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Wheel torque for my 2014 Flying Cloud is 115#
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05-21-2016, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2018 33' Classic
Cumming
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Wheel torque
I have 16" wheels. Just had tires rotated at JC this past Tuesday and they torqued at 130. That's the value also on the sticker they placed on entry door.
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05-21-2016, 11:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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My 2013 31 classic says 110 lbs air, use it for the 16" also....
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05-21-2016, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
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I go with 125 ft/lb on my 16" because JC told me the torque was 125-130.
They told me this in 2011.
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05-21-2016, 12:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 28' Pendleton
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Santa Fe
, New Mexico
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So, the manual for our 2016 Pendleton states 110 ft./lbs. with 16" Sendel alloy wheels, and Michelin LT 225/75 R16's. I've been running the tires at 80 psi. Any suggestions for tire pressure?
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05-21-2016, 01:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkFinATX
So, the manual for our 2016 Pendleton states 110 ft./lbs. with 16" Sendel alloy wheels, and Michelin LT 225/75 R16's. I've been running the tires at 80 psi. Any suggestions for tire pressure?
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What does Michelin and Airstream recommend? There should be a sticker on the side of the trailer with recommended tire pressures.
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05-21-2016, 01:20 PM
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All quite interesting - The studs and nuts are all the same, correct? Seems odd that one stud would be torqued at one level and another at a higher level. The wheel material is same, surface area is same, and stud strength is same, only the load and force that might be applied is variable. Interesting that a 1/2-20 stud would be torqued to multiple different levels. Is the thickness and length of stud different between 14, 15 and 16 inch wheels or does the engagement length change when moving from the 5-6 hole wheel? Again, it is what it is. Just surprising that there is a difference. My education awaits your informed input. Pat
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05-21-2016, 03:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
All quite interesting - The studs and nuts are all the same, correct? Seems odd that one stud would be torqued at one level and another at a higher level. The wheel material is same, surface area is same, and stud strength is same, only the load and force that might be applied is variable. Interesting that a 1/2-20 stud would be torqued to multiple different levels. Is the thickness and length of stud different between 14, 15 and 16 inch wheels or does the engagement length change when moving from the 5-6 hole wheel? Again, it is what it is. Just surprising that there is a difference. My education awaits your informed input. Pat
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Well, Pat, it's like most be like most every thing where Airstream owners are concerned...... there are as many opinions as there are AS Owners on Forums. It wasn't very many years ago that very few Airstreamers didn't have a clue what a torque wrench was, nor how to use it, and most of them pulled whatever AS they owned with a half ton Suburban, today we're all experts in what ever you want to talk about.
For what ever it's worth.
Larry
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05-21-2016, 04:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 28' Pendleton
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Santa Fe
, New Mexico
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Wheels and Tires
Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
What does Michelin and Airstream recommend? There should be a sticker on the side of the trailer with recommended tire pressures.
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All right... was washing Mr. Big Shiny and checked the plaque. Tire pressure is stated at 80 PSI, which is what I thought. My first torque wrench, a Craftsman, was a dud. Had to exchange it and I do check torque regularly. My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is whether you torque at 110, 115 or 120 ft./lbs. the important thing is that every stud be the same. Know your bolt pattern for 5 or 6 bolt wheels and do it the same way every time.
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05-22-2016, 05:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Pinehurst
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
All quite interesting - The studs and nuts are all the same, correct? Seems odd that one stud would be torqued at one level and another at a higher level. The wheel material is same, surface area is same, and stud strength is same, only the load and force that might be applied is variable. Interesting that a 1/2-20 stud would be torqued to multiple different levels. Is the thickness and length of stud different between 14, 15 and 16 inch wheels or does the engagement length change when moving from the 5-6 hole wheel? Again, it is what it is. Just surprising that there is a difference. My education awaits your informed input. Pat
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Yes! Those are my questions as well. I noted all the conflicting information on torque values before I initiated this thread.
In my professional life, I am a fairly notorious vintage motorcycle mechanic. I regard torque specs established by engineers and published by manufacturers as somewhat "sacred" information ....especially for engine work!
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