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Old 11-19-2007, 11:58 AM   #1
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Question Oil bath wheel bearings

Has anybody converted standard grease hubs to an oil bath lube system?
I'm thinking of upgrading my 04 bambi "THE HEALTH CHIC"
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:21 PM   #2
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Have not heard of anyone doing this, but have seen them advertised for boat trailers. I have never had a problem with greased bearings, and I have 4 trailers, boat, A/S, utility flatbed and horse. My utility trailer has gone the longest, without any service, about 9 years!

That being said, I have seen some failures due to lack of PROPER service. One trailer, a friends gets used commercially, just about every day. It died from OVER greasing, after one of his goombas blew a seal out with a grease gun. The other from someone who did not know what they were doing when they repacked and put the bearings and races in backwards.
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I would go for it...
Like above, never done a conversion, did have them on 18 wheeler and they last forever.
I think they help wit cooling and keep bearing in lube.
Easy to top off when low too...no special gun needed.
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Years ago all Big Trucks had axles that were Greased Bearings. About 30 yrs. ago or so Someone invented the oil bath bearing with is still in use today. But I have not seen It for axles of the size of the Henschen or Dexter axle used on AS. It would be very convenient. They have a sight glass where U can see the oil level and a rubber bung U can pull off and fill them with oil. they do take a little different rear seal but they are not that expensive.
If anyone has seen such a setup Im intrested. I do have a converted jet-ski trailer that I use to pu/del yardtractors and it has Bearing Buddys that U fill with a grease-gun. I grease em once a yr or when they get low,it has a spring loaded plate with the grease zurk in it.U fill till the plate reaches the outside end and its full. I never have had a overfilling problem with them but I heard they are not good where brakes are innvolved.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:51 PM   #5
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Land Rover has recently "uprated" the servicing of the oil bath bearings on the front axle of my Land Rover Discovery by stating that they should now be filled with grease instead of oil. This notice was accompanied by two small sachets containing the correct quantity and type of grease. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.....
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If you can find the parts I would do it in a minute. I took a quick look at the Dexter axle site and it looks like you can order oil lube on a 6000# axle with 12"x2" electric brakes. However, I'm not sure it comes on the Troflex axles, it may only come on leaf spring axles.
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I just looked at the GKN site and a cut away view of the axle and I'm reasonably sure that Henschen(GKN) now offers a greaseable axle as does Dexter. I'm sure if I have assumed incorrectly that ANDY will offer his expert/hands on Wisdom.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:42 PM   #8
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Land Rover has recently "uprated" the servicing of the oil bath bearings on the front axle of my Land Rover Discovery by stating that they should now be filled with grease instead of oil.
Because grease won't leak as readily as oil?

Why don't the British build computers? Because they haven't figured out how to make them leak oil.

Sorry for the British car joke- my first car was an LR and I loved it ('67 Series IIA).
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the brit joke is no joke,

just the truth.

hi chic...

why the oil bath?

the friction isn't significantly different , grease is basically oil + soap.

harder to keep them from leaking and IF a leak developed it might affect the brakes...

when parked (stored) the bearings will not have better protection with a oil bath..

imo the nifty upgrade is disc brakes and nev-r lube hubs with 100k bearing sets...

if you can get that combo.

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Sorry for the British car joke- my first car was an LR and I loved it ('67 Series IIA).
Hey, I've got some Lucas electric spares you might find useful.....

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i'm glad you have a good sense of humor nick!

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Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. I had an MG.
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Oil Vs Grease

Actibrake used oil and mine and several other's leaked within 1000 miles.
Actibrake paid too have them returned too grease.
In my openion there wasn't enough oil in the small space too cool and that's what caused the seals too melt.

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