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Old 08-16-2016, 07:41 PM   #1
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Lug nut problems on 16" wheels

In preparation for an upcoming trip, I checked my lug nut torque today. I found that some of the lug nuts, which are a two-piece construction, had the outer jacket spin on the interior nut, making the nut too large for the socket. This made it damn near impossible to remove or tighten. I had to drive a 12 point socket onto the nut in order to remove the offending nuts. Fortunately I was able to find one-piece lug nuts at the local Napa store. They only had 20 on hand, but will have the other 4 in in the morning. Just wanted to see if this is a common problem or another one of those "No, Bob, just you" moments. Seems a shame AS would not opt for a quality part in such a critical location.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:51 PM   #2
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I recommend using a 6-pt socket on the AS lug nuts and make sure it is the correct size. I messed up on of mine with a 12-pt socket. By just catching on the points, it slightly deformed the outer cover.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:59 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I started with my 6 point but when I couldn't get it off I had to resort to the driving on the 12 point. My concern is with the two part construction of the lug nut. I know that this to make it look pretty. I have a feeling that the person who originally put them on got a little sloppy with his impact gun causing the problem in the first place.
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Old 08-16-2016, 08:17 PM   #4
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Hello Bob

Neither the two piece lug nuts, nor mechanics' frustration with them, is unique to Airstream. I have a 2006 Dodge Charger that has them, and I've replaced many.

In general it is best to use a 6 point socket, and hand tools, on these. Impact tools, and 12 point sockets, are to be avoided. It is also important that the size match exactly. I'm unsure of the situation with your trailer, but in general, the 3/4" and 19mm sizes are nearly interchangeable but the proper one should be used.
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Old 08-16-2016, 09:31 PM   #5
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Bottom line is that the OEM Aistream lug nuts are junk. They work better with a six point socket, but they are still junk. I would highly recommend that they be replaced with McGard solid lug nuts. This is what I have done on three different Airstreams.

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So I was looking at installing locking lug nuts on the 2005 classics with a nice set of 16" rims and Michelin tires the PO installed . I have not tried to remove the lug nuts thus far but was thinking about checking the torque and installing the keyed lug nuts..

what size or other info for the McGard lug nut can you provide.. In looking at the website i see a M12x1.25 cone, non cone etc.. any tips or size needed..



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Bottom line is that the OEM Aistream lug nuts are junk. They work better with a six point socket, but they are still junk. I would highly recommend that they be replaced with McGard solid lug nuts. This is what I have done on three different Airstreams.

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I am not sure about yours, but mine were 1/2-20 with a 60 degree cone. I have 16 " Michelins on aluminum wheels.
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Google the McGard 64010 lug nuts and see if that will work. They are 1/2"-20, 1.4" tall nuts. May also wish to consider the Accuwheel LNA 12000C6.

Airstream knows there's a problem with the current lug nuts. Per my conversation with a Factory Tech Rep, they're now considering a change to a one-piece lug nut.

With the OEM nuts, you need to use a 6-point socket of the correct, exact size, then be certain the socket is fully seated (all the way in) before applying pressure.

On my new unit, one lug nut was stripped and five were cracked, as delivered from the Factory. I replaced all with McGards. Money well spent...
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:35 AM   #9
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I too had a problem with the outer jacket spinning when trying to get the original lug nuts off so I could switch to the McGard 1 piece lug nut. After struggling to get a few off I finally was successful. Then someone told me when this happens you could tap on the outer jacket to flatten it out so the outside jacket would quit spinning. I never tried to do this myself but I wished I had known to give it a try when I was struggling to get them off.


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Beat a six-sided socket onto them to get them off.
Then replace them with single piece chrome lug nuts.
Frustration over-
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Exactly. I had the same problem after 3 blowouts on GYM's and had 4 lug nuts separate. Bought all stainless lugs.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:35 PM   #12
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2 piece lug nuts don't rust. One piece lug nuts do rust. Impact wrenches are the enemy of both. They separate the 2 pieced ones and exacerbate the rust problem on solid ones. Having had numerous Airstreams and others and I have been exasperated a time or two with this issue. It is very tempting to use an impact wrench on a triple axle, but I have tried not to for this very reason. Even if you spend the big bucks on solid, high quality nuts, steel from your socket can transfer to the pristine surface and start rusting. Try to use the colorful, non-marring sockets when you can. I just recently installed new axles and wheels with new expensive nuts. X36 One is already rusting. Oh well.
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Get a set of Gorilla's lug nuts the best on the market.
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Get a set of Gorilla's lug nuts the best on the market.

TETO....I prefer Mcgard
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Got ours from Amazon

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........8yrs no rust yet.
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