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Old 09-07-2016, 04:47 PM   #29
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Replaced all the stock lug nuts on my trailer. The two piece jobs are just this side of junk. AND, while you can run the trailer on 3 wheels/tires, I want to be able to change a tire on the road....without having to do a "work around" with a cheap lug nut that separates when you try to remove it.

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Old 09-07-2016, 05:27 PM   #30
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The McGard lug nuts are guaranteed against rust, forever.


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Old 09-08-2016, 04:40 AM   #31

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The McGard lug nuts are guaranteed against rust, forever.

Plus they make very nice 'wheel' locks also.


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Old 09-08-2016, 04:15 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by GinaNBob View Post
In preparation for an upcoming trip, I checked my lug nut torque today. I found that some of the lug nuts, which are a two-piece construction, had the outer jacket spin on the interior nut, making the nut too large for the socket. This made it damn near impossible to remove or tighten. I had to drive a 12 point socket onto the nut in order to remove the offending nuts. Fortunately I was able to find one-piece lug nuts at the local Napa store. They only had 20 on hand, but will have the other 4 in in the morning. Just wanted to see if this is a common problem or another one of those "No, Bob, just you" moments. Seems a shame AS would not opt for a quality part in such a critical location.
So sorry for your experience. We had the exact same experience with the poorly designed OEM lugs. I stripped 3 and just couldn't get them off! Finally took the coach to our local Discount Tire and they helped no charge. I did an autopsy on one of the stripped lugs and couldn't believe the shoddy two-part construction.

Replaced them all with Gorilla Automotive 41187HTB Heat Treated Acorn Bulge Lug Nuts (1/2" Thread Size). Torqued each down to specifications. Also added a lock lug to each tire.

Hang in there, it gets better as you make your new Pendleton home.

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Old 09-08-2016, 06:34 PM   #33
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Thanks Dennis
Everything is going well with a few hiccups. Now the awning won't work. Bob called zipdee and they sent new motor and control board but still doesn't work. Now we have an appt at the dealer to see if they can fix it. The frustrating part is that it did work on our first outing and then no more. Sigh....
Still love the trailer but sad about problems that occur. Still not willing to give it up!
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:34 AM   #34
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Here is an earlier post I made concerning the same issue. Any shared experience with the tuner spline drive lug nuts will be appreciated.

Previous Post:We have had problems with the lug nut clearance between a 3/4 socket and the aluminum wheel on our 2017 Flying Cloud 26U. The nut appears to be of two-piece construction and the outer shell can become distorted during tightening thus reducing the already slight socket/wheel clearance. A tire shop suggested using a single piece construction lug nut. Since then I have discovered a spline drive lug nut (Gorilla, McGard et al) that has a smaller socket/key OD. This would seem to solve this problem. I will appreciate thoughts and/or experiences on the new lug nut approach - especially that spline drive choice. Thanks for any help
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:39 AM   #35
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I got rid of my lug nuts when I went to 16” wheels with Michelin’s. Replaced the two part nuts with McGards. Have had zero issues since.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:44 AM   #36
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Yep, me too. Those 2 piece lug nuts are junk. Don't know why AS still uses them.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:06 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by pappy19 View Post
Yep, me too. Those 2 piece lug nuts are junk. Don't know why AS still uses them.
They don't.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:34 PM   #38
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PO went to 16 wheels and nice lug nuts but I found out the space between wheel and nut does not allow a regular + bar tire tool to get in.

I tried a regular 3/4" socket and it works fine, i coupled that with a 24" breaker bar and walla in control of tires again.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:37 PM   #39
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I'll add one more quick story about two-piece lug nuts. After noticing a slow leak in one tire, I attempted to remove the wheel in my driveway to have the tire tested. I could remove 4 of 6 lug nuts with a 3/4" +type bar. On two of the nuts I could not seat the socket fully enough over the outer cover to bite, no matter what I did. I ended up taking the trailer to a local Les Schwab who took the wheel off, fixed the tire, and replaced the lug nuts with Gorillas on all four wheels (for $48.00). We are very glad we did this at home with local resources - rather than finding out on the side of the highway that I couldn't do this on my own.

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