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08-17-2016, 04:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB International
Littleton
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 36
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No, Bob....just you.
Bob😬
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08-18-2016, 05:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Wenatchee
, Washington
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
Bottom line is that the OEM Aistream lug nuts are junk. They work better with a six point socket, but they are still junk. I would highly recommend that they be replaced with McGard solid lug nuts. This is what I have done on three different Airstreams.
Brian
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+1. Installed the McGards when I installed the 16" wheels and Michelins. Can't say no worries, but less worries anyway.
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2018 Ram 3500 SLT CTD 4X4 pickup
2014 Airstream Flying Cloud 27FB
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09-06-2016, 03:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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What size are they, what/where do you get them? I have a 2017 FC25 and am going to 16" rims
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09-06-2016, 03:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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AccuWheel LNA-12000C6 Chrome Bulge Acorn Wheel Lug Nuts (1/2"-20 Thread Size) 1.4" Tall - Pack of 24 Lugnuts
Sold by: JK Collection
$19.99
Ordered these from Amazon a year ago when I got my Sendel T03 wheels. LT tires, Dill TPMS, and Centramatic balancers.
The still appear as new and the tires still appear as new with no noticeable tread wear.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-06-2016, 03:19 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dblee1950
What size are they, what/where do you get them? I have a 2017 FC25 and am going to 16" rims
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Just click "Amazon" in this post
Bob
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09-07-2016, 01:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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Ok, just to confirm before I order, either the Mcgard 64010 or the AccuWheel LNA-12000C6 Chrome Bulge Acorn Wheel Lug Nuts (1/2"-20 Thread Size) 1.4" Tall nuts will fit by 2017 FC. It has the 15" rim and I'm going to the 16".
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09-07-2016, 01:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Yes.
That is the lug nut I ordered for my 2013 Classic when going from 15" to 16" wheels.
1 year later and the tires, wheels, and lug nuts still appear as new.
The hub/brake drum/axle should be the same on your trailer and my trailer- same lug pattern.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-07-2016, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Boulder City
, Nevada
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,703
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Sendel Lug Nuts- four sets & locking nut $29.00
I have a running Thread that solves the problem with the two piece lug nut.
'16" Sendel Wheels & 16" Michelin LTX Tires' Been running since March 22, 2016.
Below is the lug nut set for four wheels and that includes a socket and a lug nut keyed to the socket for security. I have had no issues with these lug nuts.
All of the lug nuts from my Airstreams are in a box on a shelf. I have encountered people trying to remove the original lug nuts and mangle the outer metal skin making them unusable. When you use a socket on them, you will also 'mash' the metal skin, for a lack of a better term.
If you get the lug nuts from Sendel... you cannot go wrong. Although they could be purchased somewhere else for less... you could end up buying them after trying the others. No rust issues on either lug nuts.
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16" Sendel Wheels and Michelin LT225/75R16 LTX M/S2 Load Range E tires. S20-66655T, 16x6 at a cost of $106.40 each.
-16" Sendel Wheels
Five wheels @ $532.00
One set of lug nuts for four wheels @ $29.00
Handling/Boxing charge in three cartons @ $22.95
Delivery via FedEx Ground 3-21 tendering date / delivery date 3-24 from CA
Total Cost: $583.95 Performance Plus
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09-07-2016, 04:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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Replaced all the stock lug nuts on my trailer. The two piece jobs are just this side of junk. AND, while you can run the trailer on 3 wheels/tires, I want to be able to change a tire on the road....without having to do a "work around" with a cheap lug nut that separates when you try to remove it.
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2019 RAM 2500 Limited 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
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09-07-2016, 05:27 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Holly Springs
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 426
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The McGard lug nuts are guaranteed against rust, forever.
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2016 FC 25' FB twin
2013 F-150 Lariat CrewCab 3.5 EB 4X4 3.55 axle
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09-08-2016, 04:40 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob662
The McGard lug nuts are guaranteed against rust, forever.
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Plus they make very nice 'wheel' locks also.
Bob
ooop's rong wheel....
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09-08-2016, 04:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GinaNBob
In preparation for an upcoming trip, I checked my lug nut torque today. I found that some of the lug nuts, which are a two-piece construction, had the outer jacket spin on the interior nut, making the nut too large for the socket. This made it damn near impossible to remove or tighten. I had to drive a 12 point socket onto the nut in order to remove the offending nuts. Fortunately I was able to find one-piece lug nuts at the local Napa store. They only had 20 on hand, but will have the other 4 in in the morning. Just wanted to see if this is a common problem or another one of those "No, Bob, just you" moments. Seems a shame AS would not opt for a quality part in such a critical location.
Bob
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So sorry for your experience. We had the exact same experience with the poorly designed OEM lugs. I stripped 3 and just couldn't get them off! Finally took the coach to our local Discount Tire and they helped no charge. I did an autopsy on one of the stripped lugs and couldn't believe the shoddy two-part construction.
Replaced them all with Gorilla Automotive 41187HTB Heat Treated Acorn Bulge Lug Nuts (1/2" Thread Size). Torqued each down to specifications. Also added a lock lug to each tire.
Hang in there, it gets better as you make your new Pendleton home.
Dennis
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09-08-2016, 06:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 28' Pendleton
East central
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 155
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Thanks Dennis
Everything is going well with a few hiccups. Now the awning won't work. Bob called zipdee and they sent new motor and control board but still doesn't work. Now we have an appt at the dealer to see if they can fix it. The frustrating part is that it did work on our first outing and then no more. Sigh....
Still love the trailer but sad about problems that occur. Still not willing to give it up!
Gina
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10-10-2017, 07:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 15
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Here is an earlier post I made concerning the same issue. Any shared experience with the tuner spline drive lug nuts will be appreciated.
Previous Post:We have had problems with the lug nut clearance between a 3/4 socket and the aluminum wheel on our 2017 Flying Cloud 26U. The nut appears to be of two-piece construction and the outer shell can become distorted during tightening thus reducing the already slight socket/wheel clearance. A tire shop suggested using a single piece construction lug nut. Since then I have discovered a spline drive lug nut (Gorilla, McGard et al) that has a smaller socket/key OD. This would seem to solve this problem. I will appreciate thoughts and/or experiences on the new lug nut approach - especially that spline drive choice. Thanks for any help
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10-10-2017, 07:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 712
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I got rid of my lug nuts when I went to 16” wheels with Michelin’s. Replaced the two part nuts with McGards. Have had zero issues since.
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10-10-2017, 08:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,631
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Yep, me too. Those 2 piece lug nuts are junk. Don't know why AS still uses them.
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2008 F-250 4X4 Lariat V-10
2002 Airstream Classic 30' w/SO #2074
2007 Kubota 900 RTV
1996 Ford Bronco
2007 Lincoln LT
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10-10-2017, 09:06 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,836
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pappy19
Yep, me too. Those 2 piece lug nuts are junk. Don't know why AS still uses them.
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They don't.
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10-11-2017, 06:34 PM
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#38
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,031
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PO went to 16 wheels and nice lug nuts but I found out the space between wheel and nut does not allow a regular + bar tire tool to get in.
I tried a regular 3/4" socket and it works fine, i coupled that with a 24" breaker bar and walla in control of tires again.
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2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D 460 watts solar, lithium 230 AH, 16" LT's, pulled by:
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Airstream Club, Unit #161, Region #3
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01-26-2018, 03:37 PM
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#39
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 54
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I'll add one more quick story about two-piece lug nuts. After noticing a slow leak in one tire, I attempted to remove the wheel in my driveway to have the tire tested. I could remove 4 of 6 lug nuts with a 3/4" +type bar. On two of the nuts I could not seat the socket fully enough over the outer cover to bite, no matter what I did. I ended up taking the trailer to a local Les Schwab who took the wheel off, fixed the tire, and replaced the lug nuts with Gorillas on all four wheels (for $48.00). We are very glad we did this at home with local resources - rather than finding out on the side of the highway that I couldn't do this on my own.
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