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05-19-2015, 09:31 AM
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#141
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Very nice wheels.
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05-19-2015, 09:39 AM
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#142
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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I just downloaded both the 2015 and 2016 Classic Owner's Manuals. On page 4-2 in each version, the torque value for the standard SenDel aluminum wheels is 110 foot pounds.
So that is a downward value from that published at the factory for the same wheels on the Eddie Bauer model.
There has been a wheel lug separation reported on this forum when running 125 foot pounds.
Some old timers suggest 95 pounds for aluminum wheels, probably referring to the 15" wheels.
So the 110 foot pound mark seems to be between the two extremes.
Also noted that twin beds will be an option for the 2016 Classics per drawings in the 2016 manual.
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05-20-2015, 06:45 PM
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#143
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1 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
San Leandro
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 17
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Tire and wheel upgrade 73 Overlander
I've been following this thread for sometime now because it is time for new tires on our Overlander. I like the pictures of the SenDels and would like to use them on the Overlander. Does anyone know if I can use the 16" wheel and tire combination on a 1973 Overlander?
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05-20-2015, 07:14 PM
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#144
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhales
I've been following this thread for sometime now because it is time for new tires on our Overlander. I like the pictures of the SenDels and would like to use them on the Overlander. Does anyone know if I can use the 16" wheel and tire combination on a 1973 Overlander?
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LT225/75R16 tires and correct wheels will fit. Way more than you probably need, but they will fit.
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05-20-2015, 11:56 PM
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#145
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1 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
San Leandro
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Top
LT225/75R16 tires and correct wheels will fit. Way more than you probably need, but they will fit.
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Thank you Lance,
When you say more than I will need, would you please elaborate?
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05-21-2015, 07:04 AM
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#146
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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Just about the weight
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhales
Thank you Lance,
When you say more than I will need, would you please elaborate?
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Sure thing.
I think your trailer probably has a gross weight rating of around 7,000 lbs with 3,200lb axles. So, the two axles can safely carry 6,400lbs. 6,400/4=1,600. Add a little excess capacity, say 15%, and you need tires that are rated to carry 1,840lbs. 1,600*1.15=1,840
The 16" LT225/75R16LRE tires are rated at 2,680lbs at 80PSI.
LT235/75R15LRC with a capacity of 1,985lbs would be more than sufficient.
If you have different actual weights, that may change your requirements.
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Work is never done, so take time to play!
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05-21-2015, 10:12 AM
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#147
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1 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
San Leandro
, California
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 17
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Thank you Lance. The reasoning behind the 16" wheels is that I wanted to run the Michelin LTX A/T2 tires. My understanding is that the sidewalls are constructed differently and are heavier than the 15" tire. I'll research this a little more.
Thanks again
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11-04-2015, 01:00 PM
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#148
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Not to toot my own horn, but 20,000 miles towed, no blow outs, no flats. (knock on wood)
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11-04-2015, 01:35 PM
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#149
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
Not to toot my own horn, but 20,000 miles towed, no blow outs, no flats. (knock on wood)
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Oh that's a risky post...
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11-04-2015, 01:53 PM
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#150
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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I have 2.5 years and 21000 miles on my original 15" gym's and they are close to the halfway point, I have 7700 lbs on the trailer axles, wil be installing the 16" michelins this winter....
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11-05-2015, 05:21 AM
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#151
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,564
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Over kill on tires
There are several threads on tires/wheels, but the bottom line for me is to increase the safety factor while reducing the road shocks transmitted to the trailer itself.
I am now using 54 psi in my Firestone Transforce 225/75 16's. This is higher than the minimum, but increases the tires resistance to road hazards, if I am correct.
As I travel mostly alone, I do not want failure.
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03-23-2016, 12:09 PM
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#152
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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I get the last laugh for all of you who clogged up my thread about my use of the word "RIM"
Look what they called it on my truck
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03-23-2016, 06:47 PM
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#153
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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I think the clogging can be attributed to one member, yeah?
Nice truck and it has cool rims along with the cool rims on the Airstream.
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03-24-2016, 07:11 PM
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#154
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
I get the last laugh for all of you who clogged up my thread about my use of the word "RIM"
Look what they called it on my truck
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I still don't think I will go over to the kenworth parts and tell the parts man ,"I need a couple new aluminum rims"....
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03-24-2016, 07:43 PM
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#155
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Help Me Order My 16 inch Rims
It depends where the parts guy lives. It the South, they's rims, y'all.
When we first moved to Alabama from California, I had to translate 'Southern' for the kids for almost 6 weeks before the got the vocabulary internalized. What's a kid from San Diego going to do when the teacher says, in a heavy drawl, "Y'all put up yer books rat now, y'hear?" Just one tiny example...gotta love it. Good thing I grew up in Florida.
I wore a gag interpreter strip on my Scout Leader Uniform those days. Instead of Espanol, or Deutsch. Mine said "Southern Drawl".
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03-25-2016, 06:07 AM
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#156
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CapriRacer
I'm in the
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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In the tire industry, we say "rims". We say it that way because:
a) There can be confusion about what a 'wheel" is. A wheel could be the metal part, but it could also be the whole assembly. In fact, while most folks use the term "tire" to mean only the rubber part, some folks use the term to also include the metal parts.
b) From the tire's perspective, the only important thing about the metal parts is the "rim" - the hoop of metal that interacts with the tire - and NOT the part that connects the rim to the hub.
So don't be surprise when people use these terms inconsistently. Also don't be surprised there are grammar nazi's. It's part of the fabric of the human species.
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03-25-2016, 08:50 AM
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#157
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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It's a gag. But don't be surprised I achieve Poe's Law a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
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03-26-2016, 10:06 AM
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#158
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Traverse City
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
I get the last laugh for all of you who clogged up my thread about my use of the word "RIM"
Look what they called it on my truck
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It's not an American truck, that probably explains it. 😉
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03-27-2016, 08:03 AM
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#159
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,564
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Does anyone need help?
Are folks still deciding on a 16" wheel, rim, thing that holds the tire, the part which carries the weights, where the bolts go, has the hub cap, etc., ???
I am still quite satisfied with mine from
http://www.trailertiresandwheels.com...-trailer-wheel
and my Firestone Transforce tires running 54 psi. Now about 10,000 miles on them and with the lower pressures a lot less beating up of the trailer.
On the Road 05.18.15 by Tommie Lauer, on Flickr
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08-17-2016, 02:11 PM
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#160
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Great thread with tons of factual information helped us confidently order our new 16" wheels & tires. Hopefully, baby will be wearing a new set of shoes by sometime next week!
Our GYM tires are about 3 years old, with roughly 20K miles on them, so we felt it was time to change them out. Didn't want to spend more money on tires we don't like or continue to fret about possible ST tire failures, which is why we went with the upgrade.
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