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Old 02-26-2015, 07:30 AM   #113
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We had our tires inflated with Nitrogen. which should help with heat issues, I used the Michelin inflation charts to have mine inflated to 75PSI currently which is 8880lbs load rating on dual axle. I know a few running lower. I figure, once we are ready to hit the road, our full time load up is in both truck and Airstream, I will hit the scales a final time and adjust tire pressure down.

I attached the PDF here for everyone else also.
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1) I hope everyone realizes that the heat a tire generates is unaffected by whether nitrogen or air are used as an inflation medium. Lots of folks who sell nitrogen inflation equipment have been incorrectly stating that it makes a difference - it doesn't. Those folks obviously benefit from distributing false information.

2) I hope everyone realizes that the tire load tables are MINIMUMS, not recommendations. (OK, they could be looked at as maximums if you come from the other direction.) I recommend that people inflate their tires to 115% of the maximum actual load.

And one more thought:

There is a simple test to see if you have overloaded your tires: Pressure buildup.

Anything under a 10% build up is good. Anything over 10% is not - and if you get 15% or more, you need to take action IMMEDIATELY! The simplest thing to do is slow down, but in the log run, a tire with more load carrying capacity (either a larger tire or one with a higher load range).
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:45 AM   #114
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2) I hope everyone realizes that the tire load tables are MINIMUMS, not recommendations. (OK, they could be looked at as maximums if you come from the other direction.) I recommend that people inflate their tires to 115% of the maximum actual load.
Slightly confused, but hoping I am understanding you correctly.

Do you mean 115% of the tire's maximum or 115% of the load I'm currently carrying?

Can you give an inflation example.
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Nope!

I love your new rims / wheels / tires, Bold. Great job.
Thanks and that's what I thought while the thread was being derailed.
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Air is 80 % Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen; so does that 20% make that much of a difference? NOT according to some tire dealers in the area, it is a hype to get more money.
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Is nitrogen a problem while on the road and you have a low tire? Every service station has an air compressor. Can you mix the two?


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Is nitrogen a problem while on the road and you have a low tire? Every service station has an air compressor. Can you mix the two?

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Air is 80 % Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen; so does that 20% make that much of a difference? NOT according to some tire dealers in the area, it is a hype to get more money.
The atmosphere is 80% of the stuff, so yes, you'd just be displacing the volume of it in the tire.

Tirerack.com has plenty to say about Nitrogen: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=191
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:51 AM   #120
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The last I have to say on the question:
The tire and rim issue is much like Engine and Motor.
Historically, a motor is driven by electricity, as is your house HVAC fan, where an engine is internal combustion.

Seems our society is not that focused on keeping the distinctions on many word meanings in the traditional manner.

One that grips me is "How are you Guys doing?" when we sit down in a restaurant - my wife with me. She is NOT, and never will be a "Guy". She's my "Gal".
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I watch the pressure rise and it goes up about 10% or less when underway (75 psi cold rises to 81 or 81 psi). The tire temps do seem to be nearly 35 to 40 degrees above ambient air temperature with the sun shining.
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Finally photos of the wheels & tires out and about. Very happy with everything.





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I like them, have the same, Tell me is your trailer high in the front or is it an illusion in the first picture on top. Mine actual rides the same, I've got a 30', towed by an F350 with an equalizer hitch set up and she rides just a little high.
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Nitrogen was put into very high performance, very high speed, very hot tires to prevent the oxygen from igniting the tire from the inside. It has nothing to do with the pressure.
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Nitrogen was put into very high performance, very high speed, very hot tires to prevent the oxygen from igniting the tire from the inside. It has nothing to do with the pressure.
Ah ...... Mmmmmmm ....... actually, no. Tires don't operate anywhere near their self-ignition temperature - even in severe racing conditions. The only time they will burst into flames is when something else overheats - such as brakes. And even if N2 is used, they will burn.
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And now back to our regular programming folks... tires, rims and wheels
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