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Old 09-15-2014, 11:19 AM   #1
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Considering Eddie Bauer Wheel Upgrade, but would like opinions.

I am in the purchase stage of a new Airstream and was wondering if anyone could help me decide of the EB Wheel Option. It is a $2500 upgrade. The trailer is loaded and my life's dream. I have 2 weeks to decide.

Any thoughts?

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Old 09-15-2014, 11:27 AM   #2
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I am in the purchase stage of a new Airstream and was wondering if anyone could help me decide of the EB Wheel Option. It is a $2500 upgrade. The trailer is loaded and my life's dream. I have 2 weeks to decide.

Any thoughts?

Thanks so much for your help.

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Old 09-15-2014, 11:32 AM   #3
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We ordered four Sendel T02 16" wheels online, and took them to discount tire for mounting/balance, then installed them at home. Cost about $1500 total, sold the four original wheels/tires for $500 so our cost was $1000. I see no good reason to replace the original 15" spare tire.
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:38 AM   #4
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What Doug said. $2500 is too much. It is a worthy upgrade, but do it yourself, sell the old (new) tires and wheels and save a minimum of $1000. IIRC I did my upgrade in 2011 for $1100 and sold my (really) used wheels and tires for $90. Tires and wheels were 5 years old.
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FWIW, I discussed the 15" to 16" wheel upgrade with my (well respected) dealer and they told me the wheel size upgrade wasn't necessary but changing from GYM's to Michelins was an important upgrade.
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Old 09-15-2014, 12:16 PM   #6
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We ordered four Sendel T02 16" wheels online, and took them to discount tire for mounting/balance, then installed them at home. Cost about $1500 total, sold the four original wheels/tires for $500 so our cost was $1000. I see no good reason to replace the original 15" spare tire.
Doug, is that what the EB rims are, Sendel T02?
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FWIW, I discussed the 15" to 16" wheel upgrade with my (well respected) dealer and they told me the wheel size upgrade wasn't necessary but changing from GYM's to Michelins was an important upgrade.
Depends what OP is buying. I know with my 30'er, a 15" XL Michelin did not have the load rating margin I needed. 28'er would be too close for comfort for me as well, with the toys I carry.

Perhaps OP can tell us what he is looking to order.
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I second the suggestion to take it as is and do the upgrade yourself. That $1000 looks so much better in your wallet. The bonus is you have some control as to how long the tires had been sitting in the warehouse. Either way DO IT. You won't be sorry.
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What size is the trailer? At the risk of spinning the thread out of control on the great tire debate, the 15" P-metric Michelins don't have anywhere near the load carrying capacity that the 16" STs or LT tires do. On my 25' Safari (6300# GVWR) I went with the 16" Sendel wheels and LT 225/75-16 Michelins (all 5 tires/wheels replaced) and a Dill TPMS. Got it all done at Tire Kingdom for right at $2000 in late May. I went ahead and did the spare because I was going to have to replace the tire anyway (13 years old), and the cost of the extra wheel seemed reasonable to keep everything the same size. TK mounted the tires on the rims, but I put them on the trailer at home. They also dismounted my old ST tires so I could sell the rims, which I haven't yet. I run them at 75# which gives me the same load carrying capacity as the STs I took off.

I can't find the reference now, but I have seen a federal standard that says when replacing tires one should fit new tires with at least the same load carrying capacity as the tires that were specified by the manufacturer. That is one reason why I went with the 16s. While they have a lot of excess capacity over the GVWR, so did the original STs. I'm assuming Airstream specified tires with that much capacity to mitigate the effects of sidewall stress that occurs on tandem axle trailers.

That said, many on here run the P-metrics and like them. Another consideration may be the potential impact to your warranty (if you are buying new) if you fit tires/wheels not approved by AS.

As always, in my opinion, your mileage may vary, don't try this at home.....


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Doug, is that what the EB rims are, Sendel T02?
Yes, mine are Sendel T02 to keep the original styling of the Flying Cloud which I like. Eddie Bauer uses Sendel T03 with black painted recesses, but can also be ordered without the black paint.

Perhaps the black wheel recesses coordinate well with the Eddie Bauer black wheel well moulding, and the all-silver wheels do well with the silver Flying Cloud wheel well trim.
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FWIW, I suppose the metal placard on the side of the may indicate 16" tires and 80 psi tire pressure if you order it new from the factory with that option. I don't know. Mine specifies 15" tires and 65 psi because that's how it was originally equipped. But the placard makes no difference to me. I suppose if someone bought it at a used trailer lot some day and saw the placard, they might use 65 psi but that's still within the load range of the tires.
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Al, your tires have a rating of 115, or 2679lbs/tire or way over 10K pounds. Since the GVWR of your 25' is only 6300lbs what are you possibly needing that much load index for? You must either run them at really low pressure or your trailer is getting a harsh and bumpy ride. If you are having to run them at really low pressure due to ride quality you may be damaging them (they are designed to run at high pressure). Just like under spec tires, you can also over spec a tire.

A 28' FC has a GVWR of 7600lbs, an appropriate 15" P rated tire is 108xl or 2205lbs each or 8820 total. Comfortably over the GVWR. I'm not seeing the issue.
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