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Old 10-16-2007, 05:44 PM   #1
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Check Your Nuts

This was lucky in so many ways...



I now am hyper-paranoid...any change in pavement, a cross wind gust, the slightest vibration and each time I pee...
I get out the cross lug and check my nuts.





The next few day I ran without chrome covers to make it easy to tighten.
They did need it twice.
I painted a torque mark to make it quicker for a visual and installed covers with a simular mark.

Now...the rest of the story...
We we're heading back out from the Gila Cliff Dwellings, now known as the road trip from he//.
If you have ever traveled you know it takes 2 hours to go 40 miles if you haul butt.
Hauling butt = 10 mph
Now I had just checked all wheels for heat and even had my hand on the covers...did not feel anything that needed attention, but did not check tightness.
This was 20 miles back at welcome center...thats why I stayed so paranoid.
How could this happen in just 20 miles?
A few ideas...
Wheels were hot from all the braking to get there,
Then they cooled.
I'm talking hot!
I am replacing brake pads no matter what they look like.
Smelled like burnt rose pedels....r i g h t.
Lug nuts on these are flat washer type, not the taper found on most rims.
I imagine once there is slack, they can unscrew freely.
(My old Hudson had left hand threads on the drivers side...hummmm)

We were so lucky...
Wheels came off at a change in grade...semi level.
One wheel went into a ditch on right side.
Found the other in middle of road.
Found 6 of 10 nuts and cap!
Wheels did not roll off the side of the mountain.
Wheels did not hit anyone or a car.
I was going less than 10 mph
Very minor damage to fender trim.
No flats...this is what I expected to see...not totally gone!

So...check your nuts!
Don't just look at them.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:52 PM   #2
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Don't have to deal with the wheel covers, but after loosing a wheel on our

63 Safari I check them every day while traveling....you know......

safe than sorry!!!!
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:53 PM   #3
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Wow,You really were lucky. Glad that no one was hurt and no damage was sustained. Just before heading off to Cape Cod this weekend I decided to check the torque. Every single lug required at least 1 full turn. Good advice that we've all heard before but most don't take. I'm a true believer and your experience should be a true eye opener to everyone. You may have saved many a near tragedy. Karma to you.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:12 PM   #4
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Suddenly and without warning

This is where wheels could have gone....



It got dark before I could finish
No...that is root beer...



And these little SOBs !!!!
Stickers everywhere!
Locals called them Go-Dads...or something like that.
I threw rug and socks away.


looking back I had very little warning...
Only a slight wobble one curve back.
And it felt more like a pavement patch, which there were many.
When they came off it felt like dual blowouts...sounded like it too.

Also, we did not make it to the Cliff Dwellings in time...
You must be there before 4pm, and our cell phones were reading Arizona time.
If you ever want to go head out from Silver City by noon,
Or get out there and spend the night at many Federal campgrounds.
Beautiful sites along a river.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:37 PM   #5
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Glad everyone's safe

Wow you all must be living right, very lucky! Hope you get to the cliff dwellings they are so cool for photos!
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:43 PM   #6
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i think a set of these would not cost you very much.

Welcome to Wheel-Check, the loose wheelnut indicator

seem to be pretty popular on fleet vehicles in these parts.


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Another loose nuts story

We were traveling down hwy 101 to the Beverly Beach Bash a couple of weeks ago on a rough section of the hwy when I felt a bigger bump than 'normal' for that stretch of hwy. Didn't think too much of it at the time but a few miles later I happened to look in the mirror when rounding a curve and saw that the skin of the trailer around the wheel well was, well, distorted. We stopped immediately and lo and behold, we were missing a wheel and tire. Hub was still attached. We had travelled, maybe 10-15 miles on 3 wheels.
Argh! unhitched the trailer and drove very slowly back looking for the wheel/tire assembly with no luck. We were missing tire/wheel and the lug nuts. Drove a bit further at much reduced speed and had the spare mounted and checked all the lug nuts - you guessed it - they all needed re-torquing.
I'll certainly check the nuts each and every time we travel from now on!
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:16 PM   #8
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Wow!!! Glad you are all ok. I was expecting awnings or steps or something like that.

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And these little SOBs !!!!
Stickers everywhere!
Locals called them Go-Dads...or something like that.
I threw rug and socks away.
Yeah, my yard is infested with those. Every year I battle them. I should buy stock in Roundup.

I might be a good thing you had an outboard (?) on the back rather than the Eldo in tow.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:27 PM   #9
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Our lug nuts are cone shaped and the lug holes in the wheels (factory) are slightly larger than the lugs themselves. The result is that the cones on inside of the nuts center the wheel. I have found when torquing the nuts (I use a torque wrench) that it is necessary to go around the circuit of nuts many times to get the torque to be uniform and correct. I do first cross-pattern tightening then sequential tightening with the tire only in enough contact with the road surface to keep it from rotating.

Following that procedure, the lug nuts stay properly torqued over a long trip, but I do check on them (that's how I know the torque levels remain correct).
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:05 PM   #10
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Oh...the outboard...yes more luck.
I won it on ebay week prior to heading out to Albuquerque for the Hot Air Balloon Fest...and seller waited for us at his house to pick up, in Albur !
All the way from Alabama for a 1959 Johnson 35...now that was luck!
Its going on the 1956 Feathercraft picked up this summer.
Very nice guy, gave me many ideas of where to tour New Mexico after event.
Separate report coming on that trip...its good.

L&C....whew..that looks like what mine felt like.

May return to see the Cliffers...someday.
Another tip if you go,
Sign recomended no TT over 20' from the Silver City direction.
Now you could come in from Hillsburo...but dang1
Thats the way we went out thinking maybe not as bad.
It was, and twice as long.
Arms were so pumped after finally getting to interstate about 11pm.
Went all the way to Santa Fe before calming down, and to get far away from anything resembling a hill
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Oh...the outboard...yes more luck.
I won it on ebay week prior to heading out to Albuquerque for the Hot Air Balloon Fest...and seller waited for us at his house to pick up, in Albur !
All the way from Alabama for a 1959 Johnson 35...now that was luck!
Its going on the 1956 Feathercraft picked up this summer.
Good. I had visions of some adaptation of the outboard going on the motorhome in an attempt to outdo Brad (bkahler) and Susanís (Alumatube) Ampicar.

They could have used you at Branson last weekend. They were the sole motorhome there.
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We were comimg back from the Keys last time and stopped at our usual spot in Homestead for a quick break, when I noticed a low tire. Turns out it was seperating, luck was on our side as we were stopped when we saw it. When traveling I carry a breaker bar/lug socket and a dedicated torque wrench/lug socket set-up along with a laser temp guage. I keep them easily acsessable for walkarounds when we stop. When we're parked for awhile I back off on the clicker style torque wrench so as not to damage it. Happy trails---Mark
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Bump

Check'em yet?
Be surprised at home, not on the highway.

Found out the real name of these guys...
Goat-Heads
Pure evil is what they are.
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