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Old 02-24-2010, 08:19 AM   #29
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Can't resist.....Does three golfballs in each tire get you a "hole in one"?
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:33 AM   #30
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Can't resist.....Does three golfballs in each tire get you a "hole in one"?
Not even close.....but some folks will try anything...



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These golf balls were ruined by running inside a truck tire for several thousand miles. They also probably did irreparable damage to the tire.

The user had a ride disturbance and heard that a few golf balls inside his tires

would correct it, by automatically positioning themselves to counteract the vibration.

We often hear of home-brew solutions like these, but we can’t recommend them. Here’s why: First, in this case, it didn’t work very well. The ride disturbance and vibration continued.

Second, notice how dirty and black these golf balls are? What’s covering their surfaces is rubber, of course — from the innerliner of the tire.

The innerliner is a specially made, multilayer component, with the important job of preventing air from getting through it and escaping. The rubber dust coating on these golf balls came from their banging into the innerliner, probably damaging it.

We’re not sure what caused the balls to change shape so radically. Perhaps high heat and high-speed collisions with the wheels?

Anyway, as we said, we can’t recommend golf balls as a means of balancing truck tires. So far as we can tell, they don’t work and could seriously damage your tires.

Originally published in Bridgestone’s Real Answers magazine, volume 6, issue 2. Copyright 2001, Bridgestone/Firestone North American Tire LLC. More stories of this type can be found at the Bridgestone Web site at Trucktires.com in the section of the “Library” called “Publications.” Visitors to the Real Answers portion of the site can search by key word to find topics of interest.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:50 AM   #31
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By golly, if the golf ball story is real, then maybe the British Car Smoke story may also be true! I always suspected as much ...

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Lynn,

You do realize that the British SAE has just recently determined that oil is a liquid and the Lucas electrical system actually requires electricity to operate properly.
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Oh, sorry, Robert, but that view is so new-fangled that I can't comprehend it.

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Forrest, I thought about using the DynaBeads for our rig. And I had heard good things about them. What gave me pause, however, was whether I'd be able to reuse them when changing tires. Probably could, but I don't know how it would work.

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Well, I admit that I don't have that experience yet. The beads are ceramic and very small. I don't know if they accumulate rubber dust like the golf balls do.

But being small (about the size of a pin head) and individually quite light I can't imagine that they could damage the interior of the tire. As for reusing them, I suppose they could be vacuumed up (into a fresh clean bag) then reinstalled in a new tire. However, if you were to have a blowout I imagine the beads would be lost.

That's a downside, but the beads cost a fraction of Centramatics. I still have Centramatics on my '66 Airstream (one axle), but am using the Dynabeads on my '86 32' Excella (two axles). The cost of putting Centramatics on four wheels versus Dynabeads was no contest.

Having used both, I can say that the Centramatics make mounting the wheel more difficult. Perhaps most Airstream owners pay to have that done and so don't care. But I do it myself (rotate the tires) and the Centramatics are a pain because they won't stay in place until the wheel is mounted. The wheel is what keeps the Centramatic in position.

Of course the difficulty varies from one lug pattern to another. So, some owners might not experience the same difficulty, their Centramatic might stay put on the lugs better than mine do and not move or fall off when mounting the wheel.
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Did you truely have to smash your Centramatics to get the wheels on the TT? I might favor the beads over smashing the centramatics. jc
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Thhe "smushing" is not necessary, when you install the correct balancer.

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Did you truely have to smash your Centramatics to get the wheels on the TT? I might favor the beads over smashing the centramatics. jc
Smash is to harsh of a term. Following the advice of the factory, I allowed tightening of the wheel to reshape the Centramatics. The part reshaped was the flat panel, not the tube but the plate section. Honestly, its a reasonably elegant adjustment if you think about it.
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I didn't have much trouble getting the centramatics to stay put on the hub while mounting the wheels. Which doesn't at all indicate how much trouble I have nonetheless with getting those heavy wheels to align with the studs when remounting! It helps to cuss a lot, IMHO.

But you're right, the DynaBeads are a heck of a lot cheaper!


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Well, I admit that I don't have that experience yet. The beads are ceramic and very small. I don't know if they accumulate rubber dust like the golf balls do.

But being small (about the size of a pin head) and individually quite light I can't imagine that they could damage the interior of the tire. As for reusing them, I suppose they could be vacuumed up (into a fresh clean bag) then reinstalled in a new tire. However, if you were to have a blowout I imagine the beads would be lost.

That's a downside, but the beads cost a fraction of Centramatics. I still have Centramatics on my '66 Airstream (one axle), but am using the Dynabeads on my '86 32' Excella (two axles). The cost of putting Centramatics on four wheels versus Dynabeads was no contest.

Having used both, I can say that the Centramatics make mounting the wheel more difficult. Perhaps most Airstream owners pay to have that done and so don't care. But I do it myself (rotate the tires) and the Centramatics are a pain because they won't stay in place until the wheel is mounted. The wheel is what keeps the Centramatic in position.

Of course the difficulty varies from one lug pattern to another. So, some owners might not experience the same difficulty, their Centramatic might stay put on the lugs better than mine do and not move or fall off when mounting the wheel.
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Thhe "smushing" is not necessary, when you install the correct balancer.
But there are times when the correct balancer may not be available (as in "not designed" and "not made").

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Lynn,

You do realize that the British SAE has just recently determined that oil is a liquid and the Lucas electrical system actually requires electricity to operate properly.
Yes, this despite the oil always pouring from engine to pavement.

I don't think their finding on "needing electricity" was likely to be helpful -- our Lucas electricals worked 'bout the same with and without electricity.

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Centramatics

It's pretty easy to get a photo of the outside of the wheel, but getting a meaningful photo of the underside is tougher without removing the wheel. Too much to get done on the lunch hour. I'll try to send photos of the wheel that may help.
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