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08-19-2018, 01:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,077
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Can't find the tire iron to remove lug nuts
in my 2017 as 22fB, i cant find the tire iron to remove the wheel nuts
there were many missing items when i picked up my new As22fb last year.
what does it look like
what is the size of the wheel nuts ( in case i have to buy a new one at an auto store)
where is it stored my default
cheers
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08-19-2018, 01:36 PM
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Retired.
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No standard Airstream travel trailer comes equipped with any tire changing tools, they are end-user supplied.
The only exception is some Basecamp models.
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08-19-2018, 01:39 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Does not come with the trailer. 3/4” is what you need
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08-19-2018, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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The four way type wrench I looked at to purchase for the tool kit did not fit in the lug nut holes. A socket works best. Six point is better than a 12pt. And you need a jack to raise the tire. Don't forget the torque wrench to set all at spec and keep them there. Pat
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08-19-2018, 03:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,620
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I didn't get a tire iron. I don't think there is one.
However a standard 4-way did not fit either.
It's because the lug nuts are recessed in the Sendel aluminum rims.
I bought a inexpensive 1/2" breaker bar from HF and a deep thin wall 13/16" socket.
Double check your lug nuts but they're either 3/4" or 13/16". My 2017 FC was the larger.
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08-19-2018, 03:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 22' Sport
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 657
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Take this as a sign that you should buy a quality socket that fits the lugs, an extension, and a torque wrench. As this should have been noticed far sooner, as you really want to be checking the torque of all lugs on a regular basis. While you are at it, buy 3 sets of McGard 64010 lug nuts and throw away the factory ones...unless the newer trailers don't come with crappy chrome capped lugs that will just fail when you need to remove them.
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08-19-2018, 03:52 PM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,836
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I believe the lug nuts are metric - 19mm or 20mm deep, thin walled, 6 point socket.
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08-19-2018, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,077
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3/4 did not fit
7/8 was a bit loose
ill test with metric next
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08-19-2018, 04:32 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Rochester
, Minnesota
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 22
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Explore the Airstream Life store. They have a tire kit that lists the needed items.
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08-19-2018, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,077
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just checked
13/16" or 21mm will work on my 2017 As 22Fb bambi wheel nuts
ill get an extra socket and long breaker bar for the trailer now
its too bad that AS doesn;t tell customers this
i would be very made if i had a flat and did not know there was no tire iron!
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08-19-2018, 06:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Hendersonville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,092
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Lug nut wrench
Quote:
Originally Posted by waninae39
just checked
13/16" or 21mm will work on my 2017 As 22Fb bambi wheel nuts
ill get an extra socket and long breaker bar for the trailer now
its too bad that AS doesn;t tell customers this
i would be very made if i had a flat and did not know there was no tire iron!
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After you take delivery of your beautiful new Airstream, but before your first trip, you should put together a small tool kit. I suggest practicing changing a tire in the driveway as this is the least stressful place to do that. Always check the tire pressure and torque on your lug nuts before every trip and during trip if it is several thousand miles. Make sure you understand where to jack up your Airstream so you do not bend an axle (very expensive error). If you purchased new you should have 2 years of roadside coverage with "Coach Net". Hopefully this was all explained to you by selling dealer. The best deal on an inexpensive torque wrench is Harbor Freight. I have been told there $20.00 1/2" drive model is decently accurate. I have a Clicker style Snap-On that I have had for years. Just have to have it calibrated every couple years.
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08-20-2018, 09:32 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 Basecamp
Fairview
, TX
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
No standard Airstream travel trailer comes equipped with any tire changing tools, they are end-user supplied.
The only exception is some Basecamp models.
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You can purchase a torque wrench with a deep 6-point socket at Harbor Freight for under $25.
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08-20-2018, 10:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,620
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waninae39
3/4 did not fit
7/8 was a bit loose
ill test with metric next
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NO!
13/16" I just removed all my 2017 rims with that socket!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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08-20-2018, 10:46 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 28' Excella
Lake Mary
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 255
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uraljohn
After you take delivery of your beautiful new Airstream,,,,,,,,. I suggest practicing changing a tire in the driveway as this is the least stressful place to do that.
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Best advise yet! The driveway test run will teach you where the jack points are and what problems you will encounter
And dont forget to carry a few pieces of 2x8 and 4x4 wood blocks, needed to chock wheels and support your jack. Plus I always carry a floor jack with me when towing the boat or RV. I can change a tyre on the side of the road pretty quick, beats waiting a couple of hours for AAA road service.
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08-20-2018, 11:37 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
San Diego
, California
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 6
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Get a torque wrench type
I didn’t read all of the comments, so sorry if this was already mentioned... but I wanted to suggest you buy a torque wrench type of socket wrench. Buy a socket that fits perfectly, (3/4” was not the size for mine) The longer lever arm is great for removing the nuts.
You need to torque the nuts to the correct number, and check (tighten) the nuts on all the trailer wheels often. (Good idea for the tow vehicle too)
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08-20-2018, 12:14 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 27 FB International
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 258
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Maybe save yourself or someone else some grief. It happened to my grandson in the "middle-of-nowhere" Montana. He called a friend who obligingly drove 50 or 60 miles to bring him a Tire Iron. What he needed was a lug wrench.
A lug wrench removes or installs lug nuts. A tire iron helps mount or dismount a tire from a rim.
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08-20-2018, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Hendersonville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,092
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Loosening lug nuts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marchitect
I didn’t read all of the comments, so sorry if this was already mentioned... but I wanted to suggest you buy a torque wrench type of socket wrench. Buy a socket that fits perfectly, (3/4” was not the size for mine) The longer lever arm is great for removing the nuts.
You need to torque the nuts to the correct number, and check (tighten) the nuts on all the trailer wheels often. (Good idea for the tow vehicle too)
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NEVER EVER use your Torque Wrench for loosening your lug nuts. That is what a Breaker Bar is for. When you use a Torque Wrench to loosen lugs it will effect the calibration. Again, Harbor Freight has a pretty decent 1/2" drive x 30" long Breaker Bar for under $20.00. The brand is Pittsburg and it has a nice chrome finish and a lifetime warranty. Normally I do not buy off brand tools. For an emergency kit I will make some exceptions if I find something decent at HF or Northern Tool.
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08-20-2018, 12:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 22' Sport
Blue Sky Ranch
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uraljohn
After you take delivery of your beautiful new Airstream, but before your first trip, you should put together a small tool kit. I suggest practicing changing a tire in the driveway as this is the least stressful place to do that. Always check the tire pressure and torque on your lug nuts before every trip and during trip if it is several thousand miles. Make sure you understand where to jack up your Airstream so you do not bend an axle (very expensive error). If you purchased new you should have 2 years of roadside coverage with "Coach Net". Hopefully this was all explained to you by selling dealer. The best deal on an inexpensive torque wrench is Harbor Freight. I have been told there $20.00 1/2" drive model is decently accurate. I have a Clicker style Snap-On that I have had for years. Just have to have it calibrated every couple years.
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Ok. I just took your advice and got my 4Runner jack and lug nut wrench out and did just that. Both the metric wrench and the jack worked well. I can jack the AS up and install a fully inflated spare. Check.
Nice tool kit together and on all road trips. Check.
I was at the Mothership last month and perused their store. Saw a nice torque wrench on display for over $100. Bypassed it since this forum says many are available for less money. Check.
Why do we worry about torquing the AS tires? We don't worry about the aluminum rims on our cars. Once new tires are installed, off we go till we rotate or replace them. Why is the AS any different? Just need some advice.
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08-20-2018, 12:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Hendersonville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,092
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Msherw
Ok. I just took your advice and got my 4Runner jack and lug nut wrench out and did just that. Both the metric wrench and the jack worked well. I can jack the AS up and install a fully inflated spare. Check.
Nice tool kit together and on all road trips. Check.
I was at the Mothership last month and perused their store. Saw a nice torque wrench on display for over $100. Bypassed it since this forum says many are available for less money. Check.
Why do we worry about torquing the AS tires? We don't worry about the aluminum rims on our cars. Once new tires are installed, off we go till we rotate or replace them. Why is the AS any different? Just need some advice.
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Aluminum rims should be retorqued after 50 or so miles. Most tire shops use air Impact wrenches that are very difficult to regulate. So, lug nuts get overtightened. Good so they do not come loose and tire falls off. Bad because it can warp rotors and shear studs if extremely over torqued. Dual Axle TT's put a lot of side load on the tires and rims when negotiating tight turns. That results in loosening of lug nuts if not properly torqued. I check mine before every trip and while traveling if on a long excursion. I torque mine to 110 LBS on a 2017 23D with factory 15' wheels and Goodyear Endurance tires. Whenever I have new tires installed on my vehicles I tell them NO IMPACT WRENCHES. Loosen or tighten. I always request to let me tighten my own lug nuts with a proper torque wrench. Never turned down yet.
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08-20-2018, 12:49 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waninae39
in my 2017 as 22fB, i cant find the tire iron to remove the wheel nuts
there were many missing items when i picked up my new As22fb last year.
what does it look like
what is the size of the wheel nuts ( in case i have to buy a new one at an auto store)
where is it stored my default
cheers
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"Tire Iron" is a generic term for tools made to de-mount tires from a wheel.
Like THIS
Others have provided the info on the socket you need but if you do not kavethe experience with tools to know this and do not also get a torque wrence and know the necessary settings and how to use a torque wrench, I suggest you leave the task to someone that has the tools and experience.
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