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Old 11-04-2014, 10:15 AM   #771
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:16 AM   #772
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Yup. Maybe a call to the AS Service Centre is in order.



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I'd like to know if the lug bolts on an Eddie Bauer are the same as the rest. I assume they are but a "look see" into that might shed a little light on the torque specs.
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Based upon my past experience, I have decided to go with 115 ft. lbs. measured with the same Craftsman torque wrench that I have had for years. I have also decided to stick with the 72 psi that I used on Old Lucy.

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Old 11-04-2014, 11:45 AM   #774
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Based upon my past experience, I have decided to go with 115 ft. lbs. measured with the same Craftsman torque wrench that I have had for years. I have also decided to stick with the 72 psi that I used on Old Lucy.

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That sounds to me like the smartest solution. You know that works.
I'm not so sure about that 72 Psi, however.
I think 73.7 would better.

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Old 11-04-2014, 02:39 PM   #775
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Maybe not engraved in stone, but close.

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But not a green label spec'ing Nitrogen only. Saw that on an 18 whlr today.

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Old 11-04-2014, 04:36 PM   #777
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Maybe not engraved in stone, but close.

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Old 11-04-2014, 06:18 PM   #778
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Maybe not engraved in stone, but close.

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What a great idea! I always worry about someone reading the placard (for the GYM D's at 65 PSI) when in for service but that could be a great solution....
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I made the little signs mainly to remind myself of the specs when I check the torque and tire pressure. I even made one for the Hensley to remind me of the torque for the U bolts. Now I won't have to look it up every time I want to check the bolts.

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Old 11-04-2014, 09:19 PM   #780
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I made the little signs mainly to remind myself of the specs when I check the torque and tire pressure. I even made one for the Hensley to remind me of the torque for the U bolts. Now I won't have to look it up every time I want to check the bolts.

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Post #760 - pic data differs

In the picture of the Eddie Bauer wheels in text it says 5 lug though the pic and the wheel model is obviously 6-lug.

Aside from that...

"Max Torque: 125-130 ft. lbs"

Airstream originally said 110-120#. Not a max, not a min, a range.

Combine that with generic recommendations for bolt size:
Lug Size FT/LBS Torque
1/2" 90-120
9/16" 120-140
5/8" 140-160

All that said, I'm comfortable with 120# and check regularly. Less chance of popping off a stressed lug stud.

Sendel also says 80# pressure. It took me a few weeks to get the tires to settle in (bead, valves, TPM sensors, etc.) to 75-77# (at 75-80 deg) with some head room for heat. 70 and below gets pretty mushy.

Just a humble, no-anxiety comfort zone.
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:33 AM   #782
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At 75 psi you are assuming that you are loaded at least 600#s below the GW for the trailer and at least 300#s L/R and F/R?
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:23 AM   #783
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It is of some interest that Sendel has evidently updated the ratings of it's TW-02 wheels (TW-T02-66655T 16x6 Aluminum T02 Trailer Wheel 6 Lug, 3200 lb). The inside stampings on the wheel still say the load rating is 3200 pounds, but the pressure stamp is 100 psi not the 80 psi that the web site states.

I just got my wheels yesterday. I did find solid stainless steel Acorn style lug nuts on the web and have Andy's axles waiting at the local Les Schaub store. Next Tuesday the switch gets made!

Bye the way, I am going to be the test case for Toyo Tires. I just did not want to do a 100 mile round trip just to have the Michelin name. Our local fire trucks and ambulances all use Toyo tires. NO problems at all over the last 5 years. I have to admit that if Toyo were made in China, I would have made the 100 mile trip to avoid them. But at least this model of Toyo tires are made in Japan. The Japanese are still way ahead of everybody when it comes to attention-to-detail in manufacturing! 10 ply and a great tread design. Within a couple of years we shall see if I made the right decision.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:19 AM   #784
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First of all, Ken the # symbol for pound has been around for as long as I can remember, and though I am old, I can still remember what happened 50 years ago (yesterday is a little more difficult). The pound sign is also the number sign. We need more symbols so they don't have to double up. I also a new symbol to replace @ because when I try to write it is just looks like a bunch of circles.

Another memory test: Our '08's manual says 120 # (lbs.—which means libras or livres or something like that in Spanish or French because they used to have money in pounds too). But I found on the Airstream website that the wheels were changed early in the '08 model run—probably early summer of '07—and the new magic # was 110 #. When I changed to Michelins and 16" wheels around '09, I stayed with 110. I got that number from somewhere and it probably was from Airstream because I got the wheels at Jackson Center. We've traveled with 110 lbs. torque on the 16" wheels for probably 40,000 miles and they are still ok.

And now a new question—If steel wheels need less torque than aluminum, why? I think aluminum is softer than steel, but I don't think that would make a difference. If it did, maybe that explains higher torque for aluminum because you compress the wheel more when tightening and thus have to tighten more to get the same lug nut tightness.

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