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Old 10-25-2014, 11:13 PM   #701
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The 16" tire and wheel package that I ordered for Lucy from Performance Plus Tire in Long Beach, California on Thursday has already been shipped. It is scheduled to arrive in Santa Rosa Beach on this coming Thursday (Oct 30). That's pretty fast service.

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Old 10-30-2014, 08:17 PM   #702
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Lucy's new tires and wheels arrived today, right on time. I am waiting for the arrival of the Centramatics.

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Old 11-01-2014, 10:13 AM   #703
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The Centramatic Balancers did not arrive as promised. I contacted Centramatic. They looked at my order and found that my order was mistakenly included in an order to a customer in Georgia. They were very nice and said that they would overnight my order. There was a catch of course. UPS does not offer Saturday delivery in the rural Florida Panhandle. Therefore, mounting Lucy's new tires and wheels will have to wait until Monday.

Itching for a Lucy project, I decided to do some prep work. First off, I checked the air pressure in all of Lucy's new tires. They had been shipped with about 35 psi in them. I brought the all up to 70 psi. I numbered them 1 through 5 to be able to identify them in the future. I also loosened all of Lucy's lug nuts and retightened them just to snug.

We then decided to go ahead and mount Lucy's new 16" spare up under her belly. We got the OEM 15" spare out without a hitch. I could see that the retainer pins on the rack were going to have to be bent out slightly in order to accommodate the 16" spare. I attempted to do this with the rack still attached to the trailer, but I just couldn't get the leverage to bend the pins. I removed the two bolts that mount the rack to the trailer frame, and put the rack out on the driveway. In this position it was easy bend the pins with a small piece of pipe. I was also able to check the new tire in the rack to make sure that I had bent the pins out enough.

We reinstalled the rack, and the new 16" spare went right in. Hopefully, we will be able to finish this project by Monday or Tuesday of next week.

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Old 11-01-2014, 11:45 AM   #704
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The Centramatic Balancers did not arrive as promised. I contacted Centramatic. They looked at my order and found that my order was mistakenly included in an order to a customer in Georgia. They were very nice and said that they would overnight my order. There was a catch of course. UPS does not offer Saturday delivery in the rural Florida Panhandle. Therefore, mounting Lucy's new tires and wheels will have to wait until Monday.

Itching for a Lucy project, I decided to do some prep work. First off, I checked the air pressure in all of Lucy's new tires. They had been shipped with about 35 psi in them. I brought the all up to 70 psi. I numbered them 1 through 5 to be able to identify them in the future. I also loosened all of Lucy's lug nuts and retightened them just to snug.

We then decided to go ahead and mount Lucy's new 16" spare up under her belly. We got the OEM 15" spare out without a hitch. I could see that the retainer pins on the rack were going to have to be bent out slightly in order to accommodate the 16" spare. I attempted to do this with the rack still attached to the trailer, but I just couldn't get the leverage to bend the pins. I removed the two bolts that mount the rack to the trailer frame, and put the rack out on the driveway. In this position it was easy bend the pins with a small piece of pipe. I was also able to check the new tire in the rack to make sure that I had bent the pins out enough.

We reinstalled the rack, and the new 16" spare went right in. Hopefully, we will be able to finish this project by Monday or Tuesday of next week.

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I managed to get my spare in with a bit of brute force coaxing. However your method shows more finesse. (I'm not very big, so my brute force is equal to a normal mild exertion)

While we're waiting for your tires, maybe we should start a big discussion about how much pressure you should have used.

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Old 11-01-2014, 12:48 PM   #705
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I managed to get my spare in with a bit of brute force coaxing. However your method shows more finesse. (I'm not very big, so my brute force is equal to a normal mild exertion)

While we're waiting for your tires, maybe we should start a big discussion about how much pressure you should have used.

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I was afraid to force the new spare into the rack without bending the prongs for fear that I would not be able to get it out on a deserted roadside in Wyoming at some future date.

I went with 70 psi based upon old calculations from a number of years ago when we put the 16" Michelins on Old Lucy. As I recall, there was a lot of discussion on this issue in the early posts of this very thread.

I used the 70 psi figure throughout the 60,000 miles on Old Lucy's Michelins. That figure seemed to work well. When we traded Old Lucy, those Michelins showed hardly any wear.

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Brian, I thought you used 72 psi. I started at 67 or 68 (can't remember now) and after lots of miles, the tread wear pattern indicated more pressure was needed, so I went up to 72 like I thought you did.

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...and so the tire pressure controversy begins.
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I tried lowering mine to 65 psi in an effort to determine if I'd get a softer ride. After doing this I got, for the first time ever, a sway condition. It was on an interstate at about 65mph. Had just gone over a large hill ( large for the east coast that is) and had begun the downhill with some increase in speed when the sway appeared. I slowed down and it went away. I increased the pressure to 80psi ( 16" Michelins) and have not had any recurrence of sway conditions. So, for me at least, I'll keep mine at the sidewall max.
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Brian, I thought you used 72 psi. I started at 67 or 68 (can't remember now) and after lots of miles, the tread wear pattern indicated more pressure was needed, so I went up to 72 like I thought you did.

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You are correct, Gene. I guess that my memory is not as good as I thought it was.

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Now that we have the pressure thing settled , lets get on to torque value for the lug nuts on the new wheels. The Airstream Manual says a max of 110 foot lbs. What say you all?

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Hi, my owner's manual states wheel torque to be between 110 and 120 lbs. I'm a max person so I have always torqued mine at 120 lbs. For my steel spare wheel it says to only torque it to 90 lbs; to date, it has never been used.
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Hi, my owner's manual states wheel torque to be between 110 and 120 lbs. I'm a max person so I have always torqued mine at 120 lbs. For my steel spare wheel it says to only torque it to 90 lbs; to date, it has never been used.
Hi Bob. I remember that my '05 Safari Manual called for 110 to 120 foot lbs. I always split the difference and went with 115. The manual on the '15 calls for a max of 110 and 100 for the spare steel wheel. I was planning on going with the 110 unless someone has some better information.

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