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Old 07-11-2014, 02:50 PM   #617
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I wixed up my mords
Blk- You have me rolling on the floor ...... I wix mords sometimes, too !
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:52 PM   #618
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I'm at JC getting new axles, 16" wheels and Michelin LTX(E) tires installed. At the same time they are repairing the damage caused by the blowout 2 months ago of a GYM. I had them install Dill TPMS sensors and Centromatics. Should have it all finished sometime tomorrow.

My question relates to the Dill TPMS sensors. Right now JC has (temporarily) marked my tires to show which sensor was used (A through E). However, these marking are most likely going to disappear the first time the trailer is towed in wet weather. I am considering using an etching pen to discretely mark the letter corresponding to the sensor on the rim just beside the valve stem. Has anybody done something different to ensure a permanent marking, and if so, what did you do?
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:35 PM   #619
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Quick question for you: Now that you've moved to 16" wheels, did you also have to get a different mount for the spare tire so the new larger wheel will fit in there?

Regarding our TPMS, ours are valve-stem mounted, so I just keep very careful track of them whenever someone services the tires. Otherwise, I know where they are because I programmed the TPMS receiver. If they were mounted inside the tires, I would ensure the rims were marked in some useful way before allowing anybody to remove any of the wheels, perhaps the same way they did at the mother ship.

Oh, and it's good to know they are willing and able to install TPMS sensors and centramatics when they switch you over!
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:38 PM   #620
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I'm at JC getting new axles, 16" wheels and Michelin LTX(E) tires installed. At the same time they are repairing the damage caused by the blowout 2 months ago of a GYM. I had them install Dill TPMS sensors and Centromatics. Should have it all finished sometime tomorrow.
Have you taken any pictures of the axle replacement work? If so, I'd like for you to post them. Also, are they replacing the original axles? What is the weight rating of the new axles?

Regarding the TPMS, I'd try a sharpie first. I'd also make a little chart and slip it in your owner's manual under the tire section similar to the following:

TP Sensor/Tire Suffix
A 12345
B 12346
C 12347
D 12348
E 12349

Recommended Tire Inflation: XX PSI
Recommended Lug Nut Torque: XXX Lb. Ft.

That way you could renew the sharpie mark as required. I think that if you ever had a sidewall delamination or anything similar, an etching pencil might invalidate the warranty, if any. Also, many tread wear warranties are void on towed vehicles as a point of information.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:43 PM   #621
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The important part is the relationship/pairing of a specific sensor with a display position on the monitor. Mark the sensor with a paint pen and something that makes sense to you relative to the readings and keep them located accordingly.

Ultimately I am slightly less concerned about WHICH sensor shows a fault than that there IS a fault - which warrants an all-tire check of pressure and temp.

To that I have equipped the "McGiver kit" with a spare laser temp sensor and tire pressure gauges.

When it's time to road-stop and check, EVERYTHING gets checked, at least until I get comfortable with and trust all the pieces, and even at that, never trust safety to assumptions.

I have a used small 12v commercial grade compressor I'm likely to upgrade if it can't make 80# quick enough. I am actually more concerned about over pressure (to 85#+) and temps than under (down to 70-75# anyway) and equalization.

Given that it's tough so far to really know in the driveway how the shady side vs. sunny side are going to behave. In 2-3 months it will be intuitive, until then I trust science and data.

All this because we experienced the massive 3-tire disaster in one weekend on original wheels and cheap older tires, so I'm getting acquainted with the Sendel T03/Michelin upgrade behaviors... but in 40 years, many vehicles and types, I am less concerned about Michelins than what I do not know about 10 y.o Airstream axles and the brakes and bearings.

Whatever my trusted mechanics tell me about lubes for my Duramax or my bearings I am going with... we have at least 10k miles of this wonderful country to explore living riveted and we are going to do it well.

Be safe! (or as one of my friends says: "the price of quality only hurts once" and by experience no better words can be said.)
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:59 AM   #622
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One of the metallic versions of a Sharpie lasts about 2 years on my Pressure Pro sensors. About $2 at any store.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:09 AM   #623
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My first Dill valve stems were clearly marked by Dill. Second set not marked. I had to figure out position by playing with tire PSI and monitoring, hassle.

Maybe time to call Dill or email and cite this shortcoming. I also think the cabling for the display makes it a dash hog, takes up more space due to bottom power feed on my dash.

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Old 07-22-2014, 07:43 PM   #624
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The task is completed and we will be heading out tomorrow morning on our new axles, 16" wheels and Michelin LTX225/75R16(E) tires. I did snap a few photos, and I'll upload them as soon as I can. None were taken of the process itself (JC frowns on anyone doing that, as it disrupts the shop, not to mention slows down the work - remember, it's about $116/hr).

The spare carrier was adjusted so that the new wheel and tire fit. As well, the hitch was adjusted, as between the new axles and larger diameter wheels and tires, the Excella rides about 2-1/2 inches higher.

I now need to ensure that I know all times which wheels have which sensors, as the individual sensors are paired with the chip in the receiver/display. Dill labelled the sensors, but they are inside the rim, so some means of permanent marking of the wheel is necessary. Any "sharpie" or ink-based system will not last, so I plan on using a small vibrating etching marker to just etch a small letter on the wheel just beside the valve stem.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:45 PM   #625
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As an addendum: JC said that the info sheet that comes with the wheels recommends torquing between 125 to 135 ft-lbs. They torqued the wheels at 130 ft-lbs and thatis what they recommend in this case.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:13 PM   #626
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When I installed the new 16" tire and steel wheel into the spare position, I had to get on the ground and shove the tire more to the rear. I did NOT have to change or bend the upright arms to keep the tire on the frame like I did on my 25FB. Having said that, I would gladly let a younger chap get the spare out on a lousy day because I would have to get under the trailer to get the leverage to remove the spare.

Bummer getting older....
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:42 PM   #627
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We just took delivery of a 2014 International 23D to replace our 2013 International 19.

We upgraded the 19 with 16" wheels and Michelins shortly after purchasing.

The 23D has 14 inch load range C Marathons with rubber stems. Doesn't Airstream listen to their customers?

I'd like to replace the 14 inch wheels with 15s and Michelin LT M/S. Has anyone done this on a 23D?
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:53 AM   #628
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This photo was taken outside the service area at JC *before* the hitch was adjusted. You can see just how much higher the new axles and 16-inch tires has raised my trailer. You can also see those nice new wheels. What you can't see are the Centromatics that are slipped on over the wheel studs between the wheels and the hubs.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:57 AM   #629
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The hitch adjustments were to raise the head by 2 inches and to change the head angle so that the torsion bars hung a bit lower, changing the chain length from 7 dropped links to 6 dropped links. Bob, the tech, also checked to see that the cams were also aligned - they were which meant that no adjustment to the cams was necessary.
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A friend of mine suggested that if you put LT truck tires on a trailer, the tire manufacturer may not pay for damage to a trailer caused by the tires.
I told him that 16" LT truck tires were an option from the factory and a certain trailer came with them standard equipment.
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