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Old 10-18-2014, 05:28 PM   #661
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Since we got New Lucy off the dealer's lot, we got her with the OEM 15" Marathons. We plan to take her to Jackson Center and get her a set of 16" wheels with the Michelin LTs.

Old Lucy was towed 121,000 miles. The last 66,000 miles were on the same set of 16" Michelin LTs. Her first 55,000 miles ate up the OEM Michelins and two sets of Maxxis STs. I would have been way ahead if I had gone to the 16" Michelins early on.

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Hi, Brian; I think you meant OEM MARATHONS.
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:07 PM   #662
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Brian...You may save a considerable amount of $ buy purchasing the LTs and Sendel T03s from American Tire/Discount Tire.
Thanks for the tip. I will look into that.

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Thanks for the tip. I will look into that.

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I bought the tires online from Tire Rack and the wheels online from a different source. A local tire shop mounted and balanced them for me. My total cost was much less than my friends who bought from Airstream or even Discount Tire. I kept the best 15" tire and wheel for a spare.
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I bought the tires online from Tire Rack and the wheels online from a different source. A local tire shop mounted and balanced them for me. My total cost was much less than my friends who bought from Airstream or even Discount Tire. I kept the best 15" tire and wheel for a spare.
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It's been a few years but when I priced wheels and tires Jackson Center's price was pretty close to what I could get elsewhere. Shipping and mounting costs added up.


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It's been a few years but when I priced wheels and tires Jackson Center's price was pretty close to what I could get elsewhere. Shipping and mounting costs added up.


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I found that true also six years ago when I put the 16" Michelins on Old Lucy at Jackson Center. As I recall, there was very little difference in cost between doing it myself and getting it done at the Factory.

I sent an email to the Service Center yesterday asking for the cost of changing out New Lucy's OEM wheels and tires to Michelin 16's. When I get an answer and compare it to the cost of doing it myself, I will report the results.

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Thanks Brain, I'd be very interested in knowing your cost. I have a new 25 Flying Cloud myself and want to replace my stock wheels and tires. Been looking and pricing as well. I plan on selling the old wheels cheap. Good luck to you. I have enjoyed reading about both new and old Lucy. Bill


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I found that true also six years ago when I put the 16" Michelins on Old Lucy at Jackson Center. As I recall, there was very little difference in cost between doing it myself and getting it done at the Factory.

I sent an email to the Service Center yesterday asking for the cost of changing out New Lucy's OEM wheels and tires to Michelin 16's. When I get an answer and compare it to the cost of doing it myself, I will report the results.

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I did this to my AS this past May - new axles, new 16" wheels and Michelin LTX22575R16(E) tires. I don't have the invoice in front of me, but I recall the wheels & tires came in at about $350 each. I also added Centramatics, so balancing is no longer an issue. JC has a supplier that provides them with a complete wheel and tire balanced assembly, so all they have to do is bolt it on.
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I did this to my AS this past May - new axles, new 16" wheels and Michelin LTX22575R16(E) tires. I don't have the invoice in front of me, but I recall the wheels & tires came in at about $350 each. I also added Centramatics, so balancing is no longer an issue. JC has a supplier that provides them with a complete wheel and tire balanced assembly, so all they have to do is bolt it on.
We also got the Centramatics put on Old Lucy when we changed to the 16" wheels. As I recall, we bought them separately and had Jackson Center install them.

Where did you get yours?

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Centramatics

I actually pulled off the Centramatics when I put on the 16" tires. They made it almost impossible to monitor the status of my disc brakes and that cost me a new hub/disc on one wheel when the outer brake pad on that wheel failed when the pads only about 1/2 worn. I would have seen the problem in time if I could have seen the discs.

I figure that the disc hubs are better balanced to start than drums and with the better wheels and balanced tires, I didn't need the Centramatics. That theory seems to be holding up in practice and the new wheels look way better without the balancers.

I'll have the set of balancers at the next flea market I attend.
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We also got the Centramatics put on Old Lucy when we changed to the 16" wheels. As I recall, we bought them separately and had Jackson Center install them.

Where did you get yours?

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Ordered them online and had them shipped to JC. After they installed the nes axles, they slipped the Centramatics on just before mounting the wheel & tires.
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Pahaska, when I ordered my new axles I specified drum brakes & Nev-a-lube bearings.
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Pahaska, when I ordered my new axles I specified drum brakes & Nev-a-lube bearings.
I would never go back to drum brakes. I had my 2005 converted soon after I bought it and the difference is night and day over drums in smoothness and stopping power. I have actually had more problems with drums than with discs over the years.

OTOH, the Nev-a-lube bearings would be nice, but a repack every couple of years isn't that much trouble and I get to see that everything is in good shape down there.
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Likewise, I LOVE my disc brakes. Never look back. Mine, knock on wood, have never had an issue. Nor have the nev-r-lube hubs.
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Hi, Brian; I think you meant OEM MARATHONS.
Yes, I did. Thank you. I will correct it in that post.

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Speaking of the nev-r-lube hubs, am I correct that New Lucy has these?

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I purchased my tires from the Discount Tire Direct Internet site. I bought the Sendel wheels from Tredit. Again from their Internet site. As I remember I saved about $250 over the cost of purchasing from Airstream. Part of that savings was the free shipping on tires and the availability to qualify for a Michelin rebate which came in the form of a Visa cash card. Purchasing tires from Airstream did not qualify for the rebate.

We have no Discount Tire Direct stores in the St. Louis area, but they have discounted parters in other area tire stores. Mounting, balancing and disposal of my old tires was priced at $15 each.

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When I placed the order for my new axles, I deliberately selected the drum brakes. I know that discs have their advantages, but they also have one disadvantage that I don't want - namely if they sit for a while they may bind - I had this happen several times with the LY motor-home I had before I got the trailer. I'm fine with the drum brakes going downhill, I just make sure I slip down a gear and start down slowly. I regularly cross some long steep hills (try the road from Phoenix AZ to Las Vegas NV or cross the continental divide).

As for the Nev-a-lube bearings, I discussed these with JC when I placed the order. Because of the amount of towing I do, I had been repacking my bearings twice a year - on the trip from home to Arizona in November and the return trip home the following March/April. Since I will still have my brakes checked and adjusted twice yearly, if JC sees any issue with the bearings, they'll get swapped out for a new set.
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I have had Centramatics for about 5 or 6 or more years without a problem and used the same 4 with the OEM and 16" wheels. I got them online. I've gotten lazy about tire prices since when I used to check, Discount was always beating the competition. Michelin has rebate deals from time to time, but it has to be at a "participating dealer"—which means the last time I thought I would get a Michelin discount, Discount wasn't participating. When I changed to Michelins, I got a better price from from Discount than from Airstream, but that was years ago and things do change.

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I have seen some threads about the use of Centramatics and the recommended zero offset for the nev-r-lube bearings. Has this been a problem for anyone? I would appreciate any feedback on your use of the Centramatics with these bearings.
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