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Old 02-10-2013, 03:06 PM   #379
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Hi Dwight, I just took 6 15" Wheels off my 97 34' classic. They are the exact same wheel that came on the Classic limited. They have brand new Marathons on them only 500 miles on the tires. I'm in Arlington, TX if you would like to see them. The reason for the change is that I too went with 16" wheels and Michelins.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:40 PM   #380
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Hi, I was shocked, but I believe that 25' Safaris made in 2003 and earlier had 14" wheels, 5 lug nuts, and 10" drum brakes.
Robert, my 02 Safari 25 came with 6 lug, 15" wheels. It must have been before 02 when the Safari 25 came with 14" wheels. I don't know.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:59 AM   #381
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If you want to talk about the math, when buying 5 tires instead of 4 you are paying 25% more. However when you buy 4 tires instead of 5, you are paying 20% less.

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I stand corrected. I should have said I certainly hope they last 20% longer...You paid at least 20% more than I did for four!
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:53 AM   #382
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I bought a steel rim spare and a new "D" rated 16" tire both for less than $200. I haven't mounted the my new T-03/Michelins yet, waiting on my new bearings, but I did switch the spares out and my new 16" did fit with a little wiggling. Hope to get it all done this week.

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Old 02-11-2013, 08:24 AM   #383
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Not sure rotating is a good idea with trailer tires. It would mask any potential problems.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:28 AM   #384
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14" Wheels - Upgrading to 16" possible?

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I just bought a 2006 Safari SE (25-footer), which comes with 14" tires. I'd rather have 16" rims and have more tire selections to choose from. I didn't think it was possible to convert to 16" rims/tires ... please advise. Thanks.
Its interesting that your rig has 14" wheels... Maybe AS was trying to save a few pennies on wheels and tires that year - or a previous owner decided to do so. Anyhow, you shouldn't have a problem upgrading to 16"-ers, it will be costly, however - as already noted.

I upgraded my 25' rig from 15" steel wheels to 16" aluminum wheels with E-rated Michelins XPS Ribs from Discount Tire. Since my rig didn't have a spare when I bought it - I had to spend the extra 25% for a fifth wheel and tire (and an A-frame mount). Peace of mind, I suppose. I'll need to remember to rotate them like a previous member mentioned!

Prior to making my upgrade, I experienced a catastrophic right front tire failure when I was running the 15" Chinese GY Marathons last June. I limped into a WalMart after about 35 miles running on 3 tires. Keeping the speed below 10mph was the trick...

You shouldn't have a problem with the upgrade - I replaced my axles at the same time and measured a height increase of about 1.75" (which I consider a good thing), FYI.

Good luck, amigo!
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:06 AM   #385
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Not sure rotating is a good idea with trailer tires. It would mask any potential problems.
You could use that same logic with auto tires. However they recommend rotating those. I believe that anything gross enough to worry about will show up during the rotation interval.

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Its interesting that your rig has 14" wheels... Maybe AS was trying to save a few pennies on wheels and tires that year - or a previous owner decided to do so. Anyhow, you shouldn't have a problem upgrading to 16"-ers, it will be costly, however - as already noted.

I upgraded my 25' rig from 15" steel wheels to 16" aluminum wheels with E-rated Michelins XPS Ribs from Discount Tire. Since my rig didn't have a spare when I bought it - I had to spend the extra 25% for a fifth wheel and tire (and an A-frame mount). Peace of mind, I suppose. I'll need to remember to rotate them like a previous member mentioned!

Prior to making my upgrade, I experienced a catastrophic right front tire failure when I was running the 15" Chinese GY Marathons last June. I limped into a WalMart after about 35 miles running on 3 tires. Keeping the speed below 10mph was the trick...

You shouldn't have a problem with the upgrade - I replaced my axles at the same time and measured a height increase of about 1.75" (which I consider a good thing), FYI.

Good luck, amigo!
Wow, that is patience. That means you had nearly 3 hours to change the tire, and still be ahead on time. I bet you could have had roadside service do it in that amount on time. I recommend always have one of these or something similar with you when you travel.

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Old 02-11-2013, 10:25 AM   #387
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You could use that same logic with auto tires. However they recommend rotating those. I believe that anything gross enough to worry about will show up during the rotation interval.

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If your trailer is loaded properly and level, you don't need to rotate the tires. They will all wear equally.

The only reason one would wear faster than another would be if there was a problem. i.e. dragging brake, out of alignment, toe, etc..
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:33 AM   #388
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Even though we have AAA Plus RV, we have always ended up changing our own tires on the Airstream after blowouts. We experienced three separate catastrophic tire failures with Lucy's OEM Goodyear Marathons. One was in Texas, and the other two were in Wyoming. All three were in the middle of nowhere. In each instance we would have had to have waited for several hours for a service vehicle to reach our location. We were able to to change it ourselves in a fraction of the wait time.

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If your trailer is loaded properly and level, you don't need to rotate the tires. They will all wear equally.

The only reason one would wear faster than another would be if there was a problem. i.e. dragging brake, out of alignment, toe, etc..

I'm guessing the 5th one on the spare rack would not be wearing the same as the other 4. The ability to increase the total time between tire replacements combined with a fully functional spare is why I chose to buy 5 tires and wheels. I will agree that the need to rotate 4 tires is subject to question. However I don't need to ponder that question.

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Here is another theory. On a multi axle trailer, the primary cause of differential wear on evenly loaded identical tires will be the sideways dragging force induced by turning. Since the trailer frame is rigid and the sideways force is applied to end of the tongue, there will be more sideways force applied to the rear wheels. This is due to their longer length from the end of the tongue and the the fact the the front axle to some degree will act as a fulcrum to apply the sideways force to the rear wheels. Therefor the rear wheel will have more wear than the front in a 2 axle trailer. In a three axle trailer the center will have the least, followed by the front, and finally the rear will have the most.

I will leave it to the engineers to calculate the amount, although I am capable of doing it. Since I am a theorist, it is beneath my station.

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We rotate our tires every 5K miles. Objective: 1) Inspect and check balance. 2) to compensate for uneven wear b/c the AS is probably not evenly weight balanced side to side--even tho the wear may be minimal.
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I'm guessing the 5th one on the spare rack would not be wearing the same as the other 4. The ability to increase the total time between tire replacements combined with a fully functional spare is why I chose to buy 5 tires and wheels. I will agree that the need to rotate 4 tires is subject to question. However I don't need to ponder that question.

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Very impressive. I've never heard of anyone actually wearing out their tires on a travel trailer.

Typically, the tires succumb to dry rot, UV, road damage, etc..

I replaced the spare with a 16"/LTX for functionality, too; but you must do some serious mileage to take the trouble to rotate the spare into the mix.
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