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02-26-2013, 04:39 PM
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#401
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steverino
Question to those of you who have upgraded their late-model Airstream's 15" wheels to the 16" Sendel T03's -
Did you have to replace lug nuts and/or hub caps, or did you just re-use the ones that came off the 15" wheels?
thanks -
Steve
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I reused the hub caps, fit perfectly, and look good to boot.
I jettisoned the OEM 'capped' lug nuts. They tended to deform under the lug wrench. Replaced with solid.
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02-26-2013, 04:41 PM
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#402
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Rivet Master
2008 30' Classic S/O
Dearborn
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddruker
I just ordered Sendel T05's - T05-66655SM and Michelin LTX M/S 2's - LT 225/75 R16 E1. Will post pictures once I get them installed on the trailer. I like the machined insert in the T05 a lot better than the standard chrome hub cover on other wheels.
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slick. I'd love to see pix of those installed.
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02-27-2013, 06:44 AM
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#403
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1985 25' Sovereign
South Central Rockies...
, "...'Stream'n the Dream" thru the USA
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 535
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Nice combo!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddruker
I just ordered Sendel T05's - T05-66655SM and Michelin LTX M/S 2's - LT 225/75 R16 E1. Will post pictures once I get them installed on the trailer. I like the machined insert in the T05 a lot better than the standard chrome hub cover on other wheels.
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HI Dan,
Looks like a sweet combo! You'll like the performance of the Michelins. Nice pic of you and the kids - looks like the top of Half Dome, no?
Cheers,
Art
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High Desert Country of the Rockies
'85 Sovereign 25'er
WBCCI: 2197; AIR #: 36503; TAC #: NM-5
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02-27-2013, 06:53 AM
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#404
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1985 25' Sovereign
South Central Rockies...
, "...'Stream'n the Dream" thru the USA
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 535
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16" Michelins XPS Upgrade...
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Originally Posted by Air Cruiser
We have a 1999 Safari which came with 14" wheels, and we went to 16" wheels/tires (5 of them including spare), we also changed out the axles at the same time and upgraded the brakes to 12" from the previous 10". As I stated on post #146 (I believe), I called the factory to check on amount of wheel well space, and was told all Safaris have the same size wheel well space. Since we had been told the factory was changing up to 16" on Safaris for individuals, we decided we could too. We went with the Michelin XPS, and have not regretted it -- the peace of mind is worth the cost.
Deb
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Deb,
We've logged over 5,000 miles on our 16" wheel, tire, ceramic balancers, brakes, and axles upgrade since last September. You are right about the Michelins - you won't regret having made the upgrade, we sure haven't. Those tires really give us peace of mind as we're rolling down the road.
Be safe, cheers ,
Art
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Art - W0ABX
High Desert Country of the Rockies
'85 Sovereign 25'er
WBCCI: 2197; AIR #: 36503; TAC #: NM-5
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02-27-2013, 07:59 AM
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#405
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Rivet Master
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2022 Atlas
Homosassa
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 729
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I ordered new solid lug nuts with locking lug nut for the new combo. I didn't like the original style lug nuts.
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02-28-2013, 08:49 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,694
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We replaced the OEM lug nuts a while back with solid ones. When I was changing a tire years ago I wondered why the lug nut wouldn't tighten properly. The torque wrench said everything was ok, but the nut would wiggle. Then I found out the chrome was just a cap on the real nut underneath and they got loose and can sometimes fall off. I'd never heard of such a lug nut. How cheap does Airstream get with the parts they buy?
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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02-28-2013, 09:40 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,153
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I'm still using the Lucy's OEM lug nuts and hub caps. You are correct; the lug nuts are kind of junky. Sometimes I have to wonder about Airstream when the put cheapo lug nuts on a big dollar trailer.
Brian
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SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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02-28-2013, 04:42 PM
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#408
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Palo Alto
, California
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 321
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I bought new solid lug nuts on Amazon - I was kind of frustrated they came in 10 packs when I needed 24 - I ended up buying a set of four locks to make it an even 24 - and the four locks cost almost as much as the 10 standard nuts.
I just ordered four new 16 inch Michelin LTX M/S 2's to mate up with the Sendel T05 wheels that are on the way to me. The best deal on the Michelins I found was $850 installed at Discount Tire, which is called America's Tire here in California. The same tires were just over $1,000 installed at Costco and over $1,500 at Les Schaub.
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1999 27' Airstream Safari + 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Turbo-diesel + 2021 Ford F150 Platinum Hybrid w/ 7,200 Watt Pro Power
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02-28-2013, 07:12 PM
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#409
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,631
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Amen on the stock AS lug nuts, they are a real POS. When I had my 3 blow outs on the road, I finally had to take a pair of Vise-grips to peel off the nut cover and expose the cheap little metric nut. It was a real PITA since the socket I had wasn't deep enough to grab it. For $20, I replaced every one with solid SS lug nuts made in USA. Now I ask you, is AS that stupid not to use solid lug nuts?
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2008 F-250 4X4 Lariat V-10
2002 Airstream Classic 30' w/SO #2074
2007 Kubota 900 RTV
1996 Ford Bronco
2007 Lincoln LT
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02-28-2013, 10:23 PM
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#410
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Palo Alto
, California
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 321
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Woohoo! The UPS man brought me four new 16 inch Sendel T05 wheels tonight.
Below are pictures of the unboxing.
The wheels come with a fabric protector to protect the finish, kind of like a giant surgeons cap you would see in a hospital.
The wheels have a nice polished finish. I was scared my rather tall lug nuts would not fit under the hubcap, but it looks like I will be ok...
Here is the underside of the wheel. Various certifications and capacities are stamped into the casting.
And last, here is the wheel with the insert installed. Sendel includes a tool to remove the insert, which is press fit into place and seems quite snug.
Expect I will get them installed this weekend...
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1999 27' Airstream Safari + 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Turbo-diesel + 2021 Ford F150 Platinum Hybrid w/ 7,200 Watt Pro Power
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03-01-2013, 08:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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They are gorgeous, Dan! I used a Sendel on my trailer when I did the upsize to 16" wheels/tires last year. After 6,000 miles with this setup I feel really good about the change. Plan to begin de-winterizing SilverLeaf in two weeks for some early Spring camping. I did put her up on jacks over the past 8 weeks. (Did a December trip to FL which was awesome...and reduced the number of non-use months!)
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"SilverLeaf II" 2015 30' Classic
2019 RAM 2500 Limited 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins
ProPride 3P
AIR# 58452
WBCCI # 3430-Unit 21
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03-01-2013, 09:00 AM
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#412
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Pfafftown
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 918
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Lug Nuts
Quote:
Originally Posted by pappy19
Amen on the stock AS lug nuts, they are a real POS. When I had my 3 blow outs on the road, I finally had to take a pair of Vise-grips to peel off the nut cover and expose the cheap little metric nut. It was a real PITA since the socket I had wasn't deep enough to grab it. For $20, I replaced every one with solid SS lug nuts made in USA. Now I ask you, is AS that stupid not to use solid lug nuts?
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Where did you find the stainless steel USA made lug nuts for $20? I've been looking at the McGard 64010 lug nuts on Amazon. They are $12.99 for a set of 4. I've got 4 wheels so I'll have to buy 24 nuts.
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Airstream - 2008 Safari 27FB SE (Sweet Pea)
TV - 2022 Ford F350 King Ranch, 6.7 Diesel, 4X4 (Big Red)
WBCCI 3823 - Unit 12 | AIR 48265
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03-01-2013, 03:57 PM
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#413
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steverino
Question to those of you who have upgraded their late-model Airstream's 15" wheels to the 16" Sendel T03's -
Did you have to replace lug nuts and/or hub caps, or did you just re-use the ones that came off the 15" wheels?
thanks -
Steve
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I bought my wheels fro Tredit and had them supply the center caps, lug nuts, and wheel stems.
Jack
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STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-01-2013, 05:46 PM
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#414
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steverino
Question to those of you who have upgraded their late-model Airstream's 15" wheels to the 16" Sendel T03's -
Did you have to replace lug nuts and/or hub caps, or did you just re-use the ones that came off the 15" wheels?
thanks -
Steve
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Ordered the Sendel T02 16" wheels because they are the same style as my original Flying Cloud wheels, no paint highlights. They came with new hub caps. We took them to Discount Tire for mounting with their new solid lug nuts, metal valve stems, and Michelin tires.
doug k
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03-02-2013, 05:34 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
2011 30' International
mooresburg
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 206
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Did you get the option of metal valve stems?
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03-02-2013, 06:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,631
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Florida 55
Where did you find the stainless steel USA made lug nuts for $20? I've been looking at the McGard 64010 lug nuts on Amazon. They are $12.99 for a set of 4. I've got 4 wheels so I'll have to buy 24 nuts.
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This is a situation where Ebay is not your best source. I took one of my 2 piece lug nuts and went to a couple of local tire shops and found one that had all SS lug nuts made in USA for .60 each. I ordered 24 and had them the next day. That was when I still had my stock 15" setup. When I switched to the 16" Lt's, I continued to use them. On my first trip with the new T03 rims, I stopped at 30 miles to tighten and again at 100 miles, after that I check once in a while but they are staying tight. Another thing I purchased was a battery powered Sears impact wrench and lug nut socket set. Worth every penny.
Pap
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2008 F-250 4X4 Lariat V-10
2002 Airstream Classic 30' w/SO #2074
2007 Kubota 900 RTV
1996 Ford Bronco
2007 Lincoln LT
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03-02-2013, 09:25 AM
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#417
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4 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Ridgefield
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 305
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Metal valve stems are important especially if you use tire pressure monitors.
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03-03-2013, 10:44 AM
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#418
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Palo Alto
, California
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 321
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1999 27' Airstream Safari + 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Turbo-diesel + 2021 Ford F150 Platinum Hybrid w/ 7,200 Watt Pro Power
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03-04-2013, 06:59 AM
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#419
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1985 25' Sovereign
South Central Rockies...
, "...'Stream'n the Dream" thru the USA
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 535
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Those new wheels really "make" the rig... Congrats, Dan!
Art
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03-04-2013, 09:50 AM
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#420
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4 Rivet Member
1999 27' Safari
Palo Alto
, California
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 321
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Thanks Art.
It's double win - a lot safer / less disaster prone and they also look a lot better.
It was not fun to deal with tread separation on my old wheel / tire combo in the middle of Idaho last summer - had to limp to Idaho Falls at 30 miles an hour - for almost three hours - stressing out the whole time that the tire was going to completely blow, dealing with being passed by tractor trailers blaring their horns at me and blowing by at 65, etc.
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1999 27' Airstream Safari + 2011 Mercedes GL 350 Turbo-diesel + 2021 Ford F150 Platinum Hybrid w/ 7,200 Watt Pro Power
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