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Old 09-07-2010, 08:27 PM   #1
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Will my weight distrubution setup work on an AS?

I have a weight distribution setup for a 10,000 lb. SOB ToyHauler I've been towing. Any comments on whether or not the "Lift Lock Brackets" will fit on the frame of a mid 70's Airstream? Here's a link to the type of setup I have...

RV, Travel & Utility Trailer Weight Distribution Hitch - NEW in Box!!

I haven't purchased an Airstream yet, but I'm looking and want to be prepared to tow her home safely when I finally find her.

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Hi w/d bars will just clamp right on. I have the same set up on mine. Sway bar will require attaching ball mount on side of A frame on trailer. There may be one already on the a/s you are looking at. When I bought my a/s sway bar ball mount was already installed.
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Id say YES your hitch will work,but it is my belief 1000 lb bars are to heavy. Depending on your tow vehicle.
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Id say YES your hitch will work,but it is my belief 1000 lb bars are to heavy. Depending on your tow vehicle.
My tow vehicle is a 3/4 ton Dodge Diesel. Mainly I'm concerned with getting a newly purchased AS home safely. Then if things need changed out I'll do it after I it get her home.
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Hi w/d bars will just clamp right on. I have the same set up on mine. Sway bar will require attaching ball mount on side of A frame on trailer. There may be one already on the a/s you are looking at. When I bought my a/s sway bar ball mount was already installed.
I was concerned that the frame of an AS is different from my ToyHauler, making the clamps not fit properly. I might have to for go the sway bars for the trip home, but wouldn't concider doing that with the W/D setup.
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Will my weight distrubution setup work on an AS?

The snap-up brackets that you have with that hitch shouldn't pose a problem. I have used that same bracket on my '64 Airstream for 15 years with no problems. The weight distrubtion bars are a different story, they will be too heavy for any pre-1980 coaches and many of the newer coaches. For most vintage coaches, you would be good with 600 pound weight distribution bars. The 1,000 pound weight distribution bars might be needed for a late model 34' or one of the late models with a slide-out.

Good luck with your search!

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If I understand the principal of the WD hitch correctly maybe someone can add some add some accurate information to clear this up for me.
I understand the issue of the potential of too much tension applied by the lifting bars when using #1000 pound bars but here is my question.
If the purpose of the WD hitch is to distribute the weight to the TV by raising the tongue back to the proper height, how is the higher weight rating a problem?
The bars are tapered indicating a progressive capacity. I do not know at what point of deflection the bars actually achieve maximum capacity. Is there any information available to determine this?
If the bars are used to achieve the required lift and not more, where is the problem?
Conversely if the lighter weight bars are used, is it not possible that they would not be able to achieve the proper amount of lift?
The bars do to some extent lift the tow vehicle too so it would seem possible that lighter weight bars may not be capable of doing their job.
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Good point. It is my belief that bars should be rated at, or the next rate above the ACTUAL (by scale) tongue weight. I don't buy this undersized rating conversation at all ON ANY COMPONENT!
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If I understand the principal of the WD hitch correctly maybe someone can add some add some accurate information to clear this up for me.
I understand the issue of the potential of too much tension applied by the lifting bars when using #1000 pound bars but here is my question.
If the purpose of the WD hitch is to distribute the weight to the TV by raising the tongue back to the proper height, how is the higher weight rating a problem?
The bars are tapered indicating a progressive capacity. I do not know at what point of deflection the bars actually achieve maximum capacity. Is there any information available to determine this?
If the bars are used to achieve the required lift and not more, where is the problem?
Conversely if the lighter weight bars are used, is it not possible that they would not be able to achieve the proper amount of lift?
The bars do to some extent lift the tow vehicle too so it would seem possible that lighter weight bars may not be capable of doing their job.
Load equalizing hitch "torsion bars" must be matched to the intended job, for optimum performance.

Using, bars that are excessively rated causes damage to the trailer, as they are too stiff.

The bars must flex when bumps are hit. Bars that flex little to none, will certainly pay negative dividends.

A good test, is to stand on the coupler when hooked up ready for travel. Then jump up and down, to make the A-frame move vertically. A very good setup will move 2 to 3 inches.

A bad setup, might not move at all, or maybe a 1/2 inch or so.

Excessive rated bars coupled with a excessive rated tow vehicles, are repair shops delight. You WILL damage the trailer far more than you think. Repairs can run into thousands of dollars, very easily and very quickly.

This is a case where "bigger" is NOT better, as many owners will now tell you.

There are other posts regarding this same subject.

Take the advice of folks that have been there and done that, and knowledgeable shops.

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Andy,

With all due respect, jumping on the setup is not a good test to broadcast. Too many variables. person's weight, rear suspension of the truck etc. CAT scales and manufacturers specs and ratings are the only solid advice. My tongue weight, loaded and ready to go is 860 pounds. I would never consider a 650 or 750 bar rating, as has been suggested by some. 1000 pound is the way to go for me. I wiegh 168 pounds and I can only get about an inch or so "bounce". I'm sure a 250 pound man could get that 2 - 3" bounce. Not very accurate. I do agree that someone who has a 500 pound tongue weight should not use 1000 pound bars.
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Is anyone saying a 3/4 ton diesel truck is too much truck for a 23'-27' mid to late 70's AS?
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Not me, I have a 3/4 Ford PSD TV.
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Andy,

With all due respect, jumping on the setup is not a good test to broadcast. Too many variables. person's weight, rear suspension of the truck etc. CAT scales and manufacturers specs and ratings are the only solid advice. My tongue weight, loaded and ready to go is 860 pounds. I would never consider a 650 or 750 bar rating, as has been suggested by some. 1000 pound is the way to go for me. I wiegh 168 pounds and I can only get about an inch or so "bounce". I'm sure a 250 pound man could get that 2 - 3" bounce. Not very accurate. I do agree that someone who has a 500 pound tongue weight should not use 1000 pound bars.
I use that test, "as a rough starting point".

The point is, if the coupler does not move vertically, as least to some reasonable degree, then your "over hitched" and/or over rigged.

Experience, is always superior to opinions.

Insurance companies data, supports the experience.

What may work for one setup may be quite the opposite for another.

Safety is the "issue", not opinions.

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Is anyone saying a 3/4 ton diesel truck is too much truck for a 23'-27' mid to late 70's AS?
It can be, but it depends on the rear suspension of the truck.

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