Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-21-2014, 05:12 PM   #15
Rivet Master
 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,648
Weight distribution is necessary to move some of that weight that you just placed on the ball back on the front wheels of your truck, This is an issue even if the truck does not squat with the trailer on it. Especially when the tongue weight is over 500 lbs. The only good thing about using a non weight distributing hitch is that the ball is not far from the bumper. The farther the ball is away from the rear axle, the worse sway becomes. Also single axle trailers are worse about swaying than tandem axle trailers. At some speed your trailer will sway and can cause a wreck. The other advantage is that a weight distributing hitch puts the ball away from the truck so you don't have to worry about jack knifing the trailer such that it hits the truck while backing and does several $1000 worth of damage. The bad is that it increases the need for sway control because the ball is now a foot away from the receiver instead of a few inches. There are real expensive hitches that eliminate sway all together but they cost almost as much as a used trailer.

Perry
__________________

__________________
perryg114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 05:27 PM   #16
Restorations done right
Commercial Member
 
Frank's Trailer Works's Avatar
 
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore , Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,547
Images: 2
I want to back things up…
What exactly is the smaller size? 1 7/8"? Is the bigger 2" or 2 5/8"? This is rather important stuff not some kind of testing one's luck. Towing on a ball too small is simply foolishness and puts everyone on the road around you in danger. Your hitch is a 2 5/8" ball and you are dragging a lot of weight down the road. Please take this stuff seriously.
__________________

Frank's Trailer Works is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 06:17 PM   #17
Rivet Master
 
SteveH's Avatar
 
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,311
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander View Post
I want to back things up…
What exactly is the smaller size? 1 7/8"? Is the bigger 2" or 2 5/8"? This is rather important stuff not some kind of testing one's luck. Towing on a ball too small is simply foolishness and puts everyone on the road around you in danger. Your hitch is a 2 5/8" ball and you are dragging a lot of weight down the road. Please take this stuff seriously.
Uh, isn't that 2 5/16"? Don't think I've ever seen a 2 5/8" ball.
__________________
Regards,
Steve
SteveH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 06:26 PM   #18
Restorations done right
Commercial Member
 
Frank's Trailer Works's Avatar
 
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore , Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,547
Images: 2
yes thank you for the uh, correction. I am easily befuddled since I feel real Airstreams have 2" balls.
Frank's Trailer Works is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 09:01 PM   #19
Birdie Momma
 
NJtoNC's Avatar
 
1957 26' Overlander
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Rutherford Co. , North Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 904
Hahahaha!!!!! Love it!!

"Real airstreams have 2" balls"
__________________
'57 Overlander | '56 Flying Cloud | '51 Spartanette
NJtoNC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 09:43 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
Denis4x4's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Currently Looking...
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,111
Back before the internet imparting all of this wisdom on towing was available, we used a chunk of rubber from an inner tube (remember those?) on a 1-7/8" ball when pulling a trailer with a 2" hitch. Never even a close call!
__________________
Denis4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 10:18 PM   #21
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,038
Images: 11
I don't think a weight distribution hitch really does much to combat sway, but I am open to correction.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2014, 10:20 PM   #22
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,038
Images: 11
What happens if you use smaller ball?

I can see where a Hensley or a Pro Pride would, or maybe some of the friction devices might help with a small trailer, but I don't see a W/D alone doing much to reduce sway on a bigger trailer.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 07:01 AM   #23
Rivet Master
 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,648
No the WD hitch does not do much to eliminate sway but most have some sort of sway control. I use the old friction system and it seems to work fine.

The WD hitch will keep the front wheels on the ground so the front wheels don't break loose when the trailer sways.

Perry
__________________
perryg114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 07:13 AM   #24
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,038
Images: 11
You know I looked at the sway control stuff on the market, and noticed that everything I saw but Hensley and ProPride relied on a friction solution.

Then I considered the 31' behind the ball on my trailer. I imagined that the friction device would be a nut, and my trailer was a 31' long wrench....... In my mind this kind of sway control seemed kind of silly.

Since I can't yet afford a ProPride or a Hensley, and I have never found myself in a situation where the front of my truck has ever felt the slightest bit light even when I found myself unexpectedly on snow and ice, I just run the standard ball.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 07:17 AM   #25
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,038
Images: 11
In my experience, an experience devoid of Hensley and ProPride, sway is best eliminated by not having too much weight in the last four feet of trailer.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 09:05 AM   #26
Rivet Master
 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,648
I had an almost fatal sway issue when I did not have my friction bar tight in the rain. I was able to recover by using the trailer brakes. The friction bar does help. It keeps the oscillations from getting bigger with each cycle. If you don't drive over 60 you may not have any issues.

Perry
__________________
perryg114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2014, 09:09 PM   #27
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,038
Images: 11
What happens if you use smaller ball?

I have no real world experience with anti sway devices, I do have experience with trailer sway in an Airstream though....

My first build was too heavy in the rear two feet of my trailer. This is when I started looking seriously at anti sway devices.

In the end I ended up rebuilding the bath removing a few hundred pounds from the back and relocating my batteries up under the tongue.

It changed my sway prone trailer into a trailer that tows well.

60 was about tops before my re-renovation.

Regarding an anti sway device, I really want a ProPride because to me the design looks effective, and I think my wife would be comfortable towing with this hitch. I can't really afford to spend the bucks for one of these right now though. Maybe this fall.

Till then I get to do the driving.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-2014, 07:51 PM   #28
Rivet Master
 
Larry C's Avatar
 
1996 34' Excella
Elberta , Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Is this conversation for real? Or is this someone's idea of a joke?

Larry
__________________

__________________
Old age is coming at a really bad time!

1996 34' Excella 1000, interior totally redone, 2003 Dodge/Cummins HO, U.S. Gear exhaust brake, Diablo tuner, 115 gallon aux fuel, Bedslide, Airsafe/Reese Dual Cam, and a bunch of other stuff
Larry C is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is there a standard size ball for smaller trailers? RhinoWW Hitches, Couplers & Balls 4 02-03-2014 10:57 AM
Note; Read forum before this happens to you! 2wheelin General Repair Forum 38 02-06-2010 09:14 AM
Turn The Key And Nothing Happens Chaplain Kent Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More... 102 04-20-2009 08:02 AM
Tips for Smaller Truck/Smaller Trailer Combinations SilverCabin Tow Vehicles 19 01-10-2007 07:38 PM
Ouch! What happens when an Argosy MH meets the back of a dump truck 66TradeWind Airstream Motorhome Forums 13 08-12-2002 03:49 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.