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09-14-2012, 09:04 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Boise
, Idaho
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Weight Distributing / Anti-sway Hitch
Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Company makes the best and easiest to setup Weight distributing/Anti-sway hitch that works best for a 2012 20ft Flying Cloud that is also a reasonable cost? Thanks Frank
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09-14-2012, 09:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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It makes a difference what you are using to tow the Airstream. Specifically, what is the tow vehicle?
doug k
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09-14-2012, 09:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
, Washington
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Posts: 1,858
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Big Can 'O Worms
You just opened one.
For a 20 footer and depending on what your TV is, you might want to look at the Equalizer or a Reese. These are widely used by folks here on the forum and if you want a "reasonable cost" this could be the direction for you.
I can not speak about the Reese as I have had only Equalizers in my history. Mine was easy to set up, easy to hook up, easy to unhook and performs well for me.
Good luck in your decision.
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09-14-2012, 09:30 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Boise
, Idaho
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 11
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Ok I forgot to say what my Tow Vehicle is. I have a 2010 F150 Harley version.
Thanks
Frank
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09-14-2012, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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We had a 2007 20' Airstream and used a 10K Equal-I-Zer brand hitch, but would not use that hitch. The bars are not flexible in their design, we either had too rough a ride or not enough weight transfer. We bought a 25' Airstream using the same hitch and am still not satisfied with the ride.
Have just got an Andersen weight distribution hitch because the ride is described as greatly improved by users. New product and completely new design. Excellent price, simple operation, and apparently easy installation. We'll see.
doug k
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09-14-2012, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fmacmaster
Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Company makes the best and easiest to setup Weight distributing/Anti-sway hitch that works best for a 2012 20ft Flying Cloud that is also a reasonable cost? Thanks Frank
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You have an easy to tow rig there. That means almost any of the popular WD hitches will do a good job at distributing the weight and providing some anti-sway.
Selecting a hitch is like selecting a religion. Really. But if you reduce it down to just the physical properties, it isn't that hard to find a solution.
There are two main aspects to this: performance and convenience. Performance just means, how well does the hitch do what it is supposed to do? Convenience means, how easy is it to hitch and unhitch?
For a simple rig like yours, all the "popular brands" are going to work fine for performance. They do have different methods of connection and you have to see which will work for you. One thing to note, is the weight of hitch heads and bars. They are heavy, and can have some grease on them. You really do have to consider being careful not to get grease on your clothes.
Then there are some really costly hitches that do an even better job, but would you need that for a simple rig like yours? Well, if you have lots of money, why not? But if cost is a priority, you may want to stick with the midrange hitches that are by far the most popular.
Hitches like the Reese and Equalizer sell in huge numbers because they work well and have a reasonable price. It comes down to a kind of "Ford vs. Chevy" sort of argument. If you wanted to get it over with and be on your way towing tomorrow, flip a coin, buy it, get it installed and go camping! If you want to pour over the opinions there will be thousands of them!
Don't let it give you a headache! Happy camping!
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09-14-2012, 10:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
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Good Points
Doug made some good points. It is possible to "over hitch" your trailer and with the stiff bars of an Equalizer some say you can actually do damage to the trailer. I have heard stories of popped rivets and cracked body panels.
Way back, I purchased an Equalizer (smaller than the 10K version) for my hybrid trailer that weighed a full ton less than my current Airstream. I did so because I did not like the whole idea of snapping chains into position and having to take them off before backing up. The Reese is a whole new animal these days and one I would seriously have looked at back then.
My TV/Hybrid combination rode fine and it trailed very well. When I got my used Airstream it came with the 10K Equalizer and I was happy to see it. I really can't say that it rides good or bad since I don't have anything to compare it to. I am comfortable with the ride and for my combination it works well. No popped rivets, no issues and no sway under all kinds of conditions.
Since you are asking for advice, I would look at lots of hitches, talk to folks who use them and go with what you like the best. The new Anderson hitch sounds very interesting. I think the bottom line is, they are all pretty good and should do the job for you.
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09-14-2012, 10:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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09-14-2012, 10:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
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If you looking for an all in one that does a great job of sway control and weight distribution, is light, easy to install, easy to set up, and the easiest to use. Then take a look at the Andersen Hitch. With plenty of us using it and no one complaining about how it works, it's a very nice hitch set up. And no bars to try and lift.
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09-14-2012, 11:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fmacmaster
Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Company makes the best and easiest to setup Weight distributing/Anti-sway hitch that works best for a 2012 20ft Flying Cloud that is also a reasonable cost? Thanks Frank
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Sorry, to much contradiction.....there is no answer to this question. If you want the best, you will not get it at what most consider a "reasonable cost". If you want a hitch that most consider a "reasonable cost", you won't get the "best", or one that "works best".
Now, which do you value the most?
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09-14-2012, 12:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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No contradiction at all, he wants the nest he can get for a reasonable cost. We know you're talking about the Hensley/Propride $2500-$3000 hitch that's is not reasonable cost in most books, especially for a small trailer and adequate tow vehicle.
doug k
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09-14-2012, 12:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
No contradiction at all, he wants the nest he can get for a reasonable cost. We know you're talking about the Hensley/Propride $2500-$3000 hitch that's is not reasonable cost in most books, especially for a small trailer and adequate tow vehicle.
doug k
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Yes, the F150 is certainly adequate for the 20 footer, but my experience has been the smaller single axle trailers are actually worse about sway than the slightly larger tandem axle trailers. And, when the word "best" is used, to me that means BEST.
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09-14-2012, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
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We use the Reese dual cam set up, it works and have no problems with it. That being said, I am now looking at the Anderson one! I am VERY close to going for it and selling what I have. The Anderson one has a lot going for it. JMHO
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09-14-2012, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Yes, the F150 is certainly adequate for the 20 footer, but my experience has been the smaller single axle trailers are actually worse about sway than the slightly larger tandem axle trailers. And, when the word "best" is used, to me that means BEST.
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Agree, the 34' tri axle Airstream has a reputation as one of the easiest Airstreams to tow.
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09-14-2012, 12:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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I've towed both a 20' and 25' with the same truck and hitch. Difference hardly noticeable, neither one had any sway that I could feel. Small movements from passing trucks in heavy crosswinds or on rutty roads are not sway, perhaps the tandem axle tracks a bit better here but I'm not sure.
Anyway many good friction sway control hitches are available at reasonable cost to handle this combo nicely. Beyond that it's about proper setup and adjust driving speeds to conditions, and that goes for any hitch.
doug k
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09-14-2012, 12:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
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Andersen will run you $500 at the most. Not $1000-$3000 You can get them from $400 up on the internet. I picked up mine for $450 from a local shop.
So price is one of the best.
Sway control is one of the best.
WD is one of the best.
As far as Set up I don't think it gets any easier.
Is it the Best?? It's One of the Best.
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09-14-2012, 12:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
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I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
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09-14-2012, 01:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephens
I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
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I can't think of one WD hitch that isn't backed up by science???? Is there one???
When a user of a hitch says it distributes weight and helps control sway how is that a claim?? Thats what all hitches are designed to do. Some do it better and simpler than others. Some do it better and more complicatedly than others. But all do it in some way..
I haven't heard any outlandish claims on any of the threads. People have their preference, and most like the one they use. I switched because I wanted something that was simpler and faster to hook up...
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May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..
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09-14-2012, 01:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephens
I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
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And then there is the driver who can negate any of the benefits; that can't be demonstrated scientifically.
doug k
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09-14-2012, 01:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by purman
I haven't heard any outlandish claims on any of the threads.
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Since you are quoting me, I will respond. There's a few right in this thread. I'll give a generic example of an outlandish claim: This hitch has the best sway control.
Unless there is some kind of evidence or test to show how this is true versus all other hitches, then "best" is an outlandish claim. What does best mean? If you said Joe Smith was the best pitcher in the American League, you would probably point to his won-loss record, his ERA, or his number of saves, or his strike out count, compared to all other pitchers. You would have some evidence for claiming "best".
But what constitutes "best sway control?" How is it measured? How was it tested? What other hitches were in the test? Who did the test? How can something be "best" when the cohort isn't even described?
I'm just using that as a typical type of claim that is made with no supporting evidence. 'Harsh ride" would be another kind of claim like that.
There's nothing at all wrong with having opinions. One could say, "I think this is the best sway control." Then, everyone knows it is simply an opinion. That's a lot different than saying, "This one is the best sway control."
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