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Old 09-14-2012, 01:45 PM   #15
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I've towed both a 20' and 25' with the same truck and hitch. Difference hardly noticeable, neither one had any sway that I could feel. Small movements from passing trucks in heavy crosswinds or on rutty roads are not sway, perhaps the tandem axle tracks a bit better here but I'm not sure.

Anyway many good friction sway control hitches are available at reasonable cost to handle this combo nicely. Beyond that it's about proper setup and adjust driving speeds to conditions, and that goes for any hitch.

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Old 09-14-2012, 01:56 PM   #16
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Andersen will run you $500 at the most. Not $1000-$3000 You can get them from $400 up on the internet. I picked up mine for $450 from a local shop.

So price is one of the best.

Sway control is one of the best.

WD is one of the best.

As far as Set up I don't think it gets any easier.

Is it the Best?? It's One of the Best.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:57 PM   #17
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I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:14 PM   #18
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I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
I can't think of one WD hitch that isn't backed up by science???? Is there one???

When a user of a hitch says it distributes weight and helps control sway how is that a claim?? Thats what all hitches are designed to do. Some do it better and simpler than others. Some do it better and more complicatedly than others. But all do it in some way..

I haven't heard any outlandish claims on any of the threads. People have their preference, and most like the one they use. I switched because I wanted something that was simpler and faster to hook up...
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:14 PM   #19
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I would add one more point to my previous comments. Many outrageous claims are made about hitches - both positive and negative - and only very rarely is there any scientific evidence or analysis to support these claims. Hitches are not magic in any way. Their behavior must obey all laws of physics. So any attribute of a hitch - be it negative or positive - can be analyzed and demonstrated scientifically. The stories, rumors, opinions and claims that aren't backed by any science should be taken with great skepticism.
And then there is the driver who can negate any of the benefits; that can't be demonstrated scientifically.

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Old 09-14-2012, 02:35 PM   #20
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I haven't heard any outlandish claims on any of the threads.
Since you are quoting me, I will respond. There's a few right in this thread. I'll give a generic example of an outlandish claim: This hitch has the best sway control.

Unless there is some kind of evidence or test to show how this is true versus all other hitches, then "best" is an outlandish claim. What does best mean? If you said Joe Smith was the best pitcher in the American League, you would probably point to his won-loss record, his ERA, or his number of saves, or his strike out count, compared to all other pitchers. You would have some evidence for claiming "best".

But what constitutes "best sway control?" How is it measured? How was it tested? What other hitches were in the test? Who did the test? How can something be "best" when the cohort isn't even described?

I'm just using that as a typical type of claim that is made with no supporting evidence. 'Harsh ride" would be another kind of claim like that.

There's nothing at all wrong with having opinions. One could say, "I think this is the best sway control." Then, everyone knows it is simply an opinion. That's a lot different than saying, "This one is the best sway control."
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:38 PM   #21
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Does anyone have a recommendation as to which Company makes the best and easiest to setup Weight distributing/Anti-sway hitch that works best for a 2012 20ft Flying Cloud that is also a reasonable cost? Thanks Frank
Let's try to give Frank some recommendations. He tows with a late Ford F150.

I'll go with the Andersen because of good user reports, easy adjustment, and reasonable cost.

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Old 09-14-2012, 03:39 PM   #22
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Since you are quoting me, I will respond. There's a few right in this thread. I'll give a generic example of an outlandish claim: This hitch has the best sway control.

Unless there is some kind of evidence or test to show how this is true versus all other hitches, then "best" is an outlandish claim. What does best mean? If you said Joe Smith was the best pitcher in the American League, you would probably point to his won-loss record, his ERA, or his number of saves, or his strike out count, compared to all other pitchers. You would have some evidence for claiming "best".

But what constitutes "best sway control?" How is it measured? How was it tested? What other hitches were in the test? Who did the test? How can something be "best" when the cohort isn't even described?

I'm just using that as a typical type of claim that is made with no supporting evidence. 'Harsh ride" would be another kind of claim like that.

There's nothing at all wrong with having opinions. One could say, "I think this is the best sway control." Then, everyone knows it is simply an opinion. That's a lot different than saying, "This one is the best sway control."
It's what it is. Someone's opinion and you know it is, And you take it as that. Maybe they have tried 2-4 different ones, this is their evidence.
When the question is asked do you really think everyone is going to agree?
Do you really think there is going to be a consensus?
Do you really think the hard data is out there to even make that kind of claim? Nope there never will be. And it's not something that can be figured out with numbers. To many variables.
When a question is asked the answers are 99% opinion on any forum Like the best TV, What length trailer is the best, etc.

I'm just saying to call it outlandish is a little much when we know it's opinion.

If a persons opinion is; "it's the best." Then it is in their opinion. There is nothing outlandish about this. There are however, people making outlandish speculations with numbers lately on how WD works. Personally with my experience with 3 WD hitches I think andersen does have the best sway control. This is not outlandish, it is my opinion. I don't have to state it as my opinion because most here take it at that. Your new so maybe you haven't realized this yet.

Now if I said; "Andersen was the only one who could control sway and no others." That's is outlandish and everyone knows it is.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #23
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This is getting sort of like "it depends on your definition of 'is".

There are those of us that need a definite quantity in numbers to understand things, and then there are those of us who understand because we have experienced them.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:33 PM   #24
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This is getting sort of like "it depends on your definition of 'is".

There are those of us that need a definite quantity in numbers to understand things, and then there are those of us who understand because we have experienced them.
I understand getting numbers, but there is no way to Get the numbers to determine which one is the best. Just as there are no formulas to tell you how to adjust your WD hitch. There are to many variables in both situations. It also seems when numbers our posted no one can agree on who's numbers to use

So it always comes down to EXPERIENCE and OPINION in both cases.. IMO

Personally I would take a bunch of peoples opinions about using something over a bunch of numbers from someone behind a desk. That's why I bought the Andersen hitch and changed to LT tires on the trailer. Not saying there is anything wrong with getting numbers, but then numbers seem to be subject to opinion here also...
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Frank, as you can see, you will get recommendations ad infinitum and you can spend many hours reading all posts referencing hitches. I purchased a 2008 20’ Safari SE (virtually the same trailer you own) new from Sutton RV in Eugene, Oregon four summers ago. I asked them to suggest a hitch and they unequivocally said I should get the Equal-i-zer 90-00-1000 (10k). I paid about $600.00 installed. I tow with a 2008 Sequoia large V-8 equipped with tow package (tow capacity 10,000 lbs.). I’ve towed this combination for over 30,000 miles over all sorts of surfaces and through all sorts of conditions and am very satisfied. Now if you would like to read thousands of other posts, ask for recommendations for replacement tires and possibly wheels for your OEM tires (most likely GYM’s, Goodyear Marathons) and wheels. Good luck.

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Old 09-14-2012, 06:26 PM   #26
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I use a Pro-Series WD hitch to tow my 1971 21' Globetrotter (4480# wet, single axle ) behind a 2010 Toyota Tundra 4X4. Works fine, cost about $289.00 from e-trailer, 600# spring bars, but I'd probably get the Andersen next time. I like the greaselessness of the Andersen (I've ruined a lot of clothes from that damn black grease on this hitch) and the light weight and simple operation of the Andersen.
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Hi, let's take a look at this from a completely different angle. When I go to a large camp ground or even a large forum rally, I see so many different combinations of trailers, hitches, and tow vehicles. Everyone seems to be happy with what they have [like on this forum] and they all made it there and we will assume that they all made it home safe too. And who knows where else these people have been. [and back safely] No matter what you read here, you will buy and use what you want.
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fmacmaster-One thing you might check out is whether the "stinger" on the Andersen is long enough to allow your tailgate to be opened without hitting your tongue jack, if that is important to you. Maybe some Andersen users can check the distance between the pin hole on the end of the stinger and the center of the ball. That needs to be about 13" for me to be able open the tailgate on my Tundra.
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