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07-31-2015, 08:05 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 406
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Wow, all such great, well thought out ideas. I've been noodling around with ideas of how to do this for months. I obviously should have just posted here!
To start, I'll probably try the winch (especially if I can snag the $50 one from Craigslist), if that turns out to be too difficult, I'll order a Trailer Valet.
I'll update with details once the Bambi is in the driveway!
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Austin, Texas
2005 19' Safari, Toyota Tundra
2 Small and Spoiled Dogs
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07-31-2015, 09:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,314
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Fundamental question(s): Why do you need the trailer to be pulled into your driveway/carport hitch first? Supposing you get it all the way in there hitch first, via winch (which sounds like a good idea), motorized dolly, excavator, team of sled dogs, etc., how will you get it back out to the street?
I too have a long skinny driveway, and mine has a nasty little kink to it out at the street. I pull my '73 21' GT into the end of the driveway with the TV, and then attach a hand trailer dolly like pictured above. I muscle (pull by hand) the trailer down my skinny driveway, and then behind the house it widens out to meet the mouth of a 2 car garage. Once I have the trailer in the wide spot, I rotate it 180 degrees so that the hitch is pointing out so that I can pull it back out with the hitch (again by hand). There are plans on Ebay to build a powered trailer dolly, driven by a 12V winch. It is my eventual plan to build one to ease my back.
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07-31-2015, 09:39 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 406
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Hitch first because we actually want to use it in the driveway and don't want the door to be facing the fence.
We'll get it back out to the street the reverse way of the way we get it in.
I have thought of backing it in then trying to turn it around (this was originally my Dad's suggestion). This just seems really complicated to me. If I don't have a winch, I need to bring about 4 of my neighbors or friends to help push it/muscle it around. There is still a light incline, so if we fail, then I'm stuck with my Airstream angled strangely in the driveway and I have to figure out a way to get it out under less than ideal conditions.
If I'm going to do this, I want to do it safely and with control. I also want to be able to get it out of the driveway when I'm done with it. I'll likely pull it in 3 or 4 times a year. With the winch, the blocking behind the wheels every couple of inches is easy enough to do.
I may ultimately end up with one of the TrailerValets. I like what I perceive to be both the ease of use AND the fact that when I want to use it, all I'll have to do is attach it to the on-board batter and go.
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07-31-2015, 10:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 761
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I really think the trailer valet is the solution you need. The winch may get you up, but how about going the other way? Is the incline enough?
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07-31-2015, 11:25 AM
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#25
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3 Rivet Member
2009 34' Panamerica
2008 22' Safari
Metro Detroit Area & Metro Dallas Area
, Michigan & Texas
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 222
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This is DESIGNED for your situation:
powercaster I use it to maneuver my 34' AS.
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07-31-2015, 11:40 AM
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#26
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4 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
Lynnwood
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 311
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1) Get the hand dolly. That's a good idea. It's good strategy to have one anyway.
2) Recruit friends to push Bambi into place.
Tom
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07-31-2015, 02:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2010 20' Flying Cloud
Hailey
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 414
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ICurrie
Why not just back it in? What are we not seeing here? Driveway looks nice and level and wide enough. Just back that puppy in. jon
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07-31-2015, 03:02 PM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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Use a Mini Excavator to Move 19' in Driveway?
Quote:
Originally Posted by B00merang
ICurrie
Why not just back it in? What are we not seeing here? Driveway looks nice and level and wide enough. Just back that puppy in. jon
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Per post #23. Because the door faces the fence when the trailer is backed in, and she wants the door to face the yard so it can be used while parked at home. A great idea IMO.
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07-31-2015, 04:33 PM
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#29
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Rhinebeck
, New York
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phlegm
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I bought a battery powered unit something like the manual one shown. It has two good size tires and a powerful electric motor run by the 12V battery. This thing will pull our 23' IngternationalSerenity if on a smooth and hard surface. Macadam for example. Our unit is new and unused as we have gravel drive surfaces and the tires simply dig-in rather than pull the Airstream. I recommend the product to pull and maneuver trailers where the surface is "hard." Special tires for the unit are available…….maybe I'll get some!! All the best!!
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07-31-2015, 06:30 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
Travelers Rest
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I must have missed something. You want to get the AS into your drive nose first. Then what? Will it always stay there in that position? How will you hook it up to your TV to exit and go RVing?
You could always back the AS into the driveway, chock one side and use a dolly wheel on the jack post, and rotate the AS so it winds up the way you want, but then, you would have to reverse that to get it out. What are you trying to accomplish, big picture?
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07-31-2015, 06:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 406
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Use a Mini Excavator to Move 19' in Driveway?
Adam, where did you get the motorized trailer dolly? My driveway has a slight incline, maybe 3%?
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2005 19' Safari, Toyota Tundra
2 Small and Spoiled Dogs
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07-31-2015, 07:49 PM
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#32
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1 Rivet Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 18
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Could you just back it in?
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07-31-2015, 07:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 23' FB Flying Cloud
Mill Valley
, Left Coast
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 61
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Could you back it up the driveway then turn it around with a dolly at the top? I've turned mine 180 deg with just a comalong <sp?>.
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07-31-2015, 07:57 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 23' FB Flying Cloud
Mill Valley
, Left Coast
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 61
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I also have one worktruck with the receiver mounted on the front.
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07-31-2015, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,114
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I would say with the right ball hitch attachment on the excavator bucket it would be no problem to move. Mini excavators vary in size, so if it is really small it might be a challenge. Maybe flip the bucket and attach the hitch to the underside of the bucket. I do it with a Bobcat, much easier.
More importantly, you need to know the machine pattern, you will need to make compound movements. If you can't operate one now, don't learn on an Airstream. Not worth it. Maybe back it in, then with a wheel on the tounge jack, spin it around. Not sure what a 19' weighs
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08-01-2015, 11:45 AM
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#36
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1 Rivet Member
2015 25' International
Rittman
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 15
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Lawn Tractors/Trailer Dolly
We encountered a similar issue. We pull our 25' Serenity into the driveway and back it into our turnaround. We then detach the TV and get it out of the way. Initially, we used our Kubota BX2350 (lawn tractor on steroids) and put a 2" receiver on the 3-point hitch. After much searching, we found that the tractor said we could accommodate a 600 lb hitch weight, while the trailer has an 880 lb hitch weight. With a family of engineers, we decided that if we fixed the height of the hitch and lowered the trailer onto it, it should work and not overload the hydraulic pump. We also put the snow plow on the front of the tractor for counterbalance weight. It worked, but the steering was a little light. Since then, we've invested in a Parkit360 electric dolly with the trailer brake option (our drive has a slight slope). For straight pulls, that works well. You can make corners, but you have to work at it. And, it's small enough to store in the back corner of the garage.
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08-01-2015, 02:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lcurrie
Hi All,
I'm trying to get my Bambi into my driveway hitch first, which means pulling it in. I'd then like to get the tow vehicle out. I won't bore everyone with all the details of my driveway, but if I use the car/truck to do this, I'll need to leave it in the the driveway, there would be no way to get it back out.
I have access to a mini-excavator and am wondering if that would work. Would it be strong enough? If so, the next challenge - how could I attach a hitch receiver? I've seen the hitches that clamp on to buckets, but the reviews say that they only work with light weight trailers because they'll twist.
Since the mini-excavator isn't mine, I don't want to make permanent modifications to it. Maybe I can remove the bucket and have something made/welded that will attach to arm?
Thoughts?
Lynn
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One of these for ~ $65 and a few friends, moving it will not be a problem.
600 lb. Heavy Duty Trailer Dolly
4 pulling on the front (2 on the dolly & 2 on the chains or use rope)
2 pushing on the back. Just tell your friends not to push on the skin, except directly on a rib.
I have a 1,600 lb 17' long utility trailer I move around by myself.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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08-01-2015, 04:03 PM
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#38
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4 Rivet Member
2005 19' Safari
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 406
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Thanks again for all of the info. Here's the plan, which is already in motion:
- Winch - acquired off of Craigslist today per Channing's tip.
- Trailer dolly, jack with wheel, or just a wheel for my existing jack - still thinking a bit on this one. I like the dolly route because it has the knobby wheels and I'm going to have to create a plywood path over the grass center on my driveway for the wheel(s) to roll. Liking the wheel on a regular jack idea because it's one less thing to store + it will require 1 less thing to have to man during the move. Is it safe to assume the weight ratings on those are for the tongue weight and not the trailer weight?
- Chocks for the wheels during moving - aquired
- 12V battery for the winch - will likely swipe out of my car to use since I won't need it often.
- Post to attach the winch to and lay across driveway in front of carport posts - hoping to borrow this from one of several friends. Again I don't want to store anything I don't have to, but if needed I'll purchase from Home Depot.
Lynn
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08-01-2015, 04:52 PM
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#39
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3 Rivet Member
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Rhinebeck
, New York
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 114
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Parking your Travel Trailer
Quote:
Originally Posted by lcurrie
Adam, where did you get the motorized trailer dolly? My driveway has a slight incline, maybe 3%?
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The unit is a "Parkit 360" which we purchased on line. I am confident the unit will pull and maneuver well over our 6000lb (max weight TT) on hard surfaces. Concrete/macadam etc.. A 3% grade should not matter with the weight of your TT. Check out the item on line. Remember the unit requires a battery (you buy separately). If you are interested in purchasing one send me an email…adamgeuss1945@gmail.com If opportune we will sell at 1/2 price. New and literally unused with battery. Hope this isn't against the Forum rules. I really am not a seller of things. I like to buy…….Hmmmm.
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08-01-2015, 06:00 PM
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#40
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lcurrie
Thanks again for all of the info. Here's the plan, which is already in motion:
- Winch - acquired off of Craigslist today per Channing's tip.
- Trailer dolly, jack with wheel, or just a wheel for my existing jack - still thinking a bit on this one. I like the dolly route because it has the knobby wheels and I'm going to have to create a plywood path over the grass center on my driveway for the wheel(s) to roll. Liking the wheel on a regular jack idea because it's one less thing to store + it will require 1 less thing to have to man during the move. Is it safe to assume the weight ratings on those are for the tongue weight and not the trailer weight?
- Chocks for the wheels during moving - aquired
- 12V battery for the winch - will likely swipe out of my car to use since I won't need it often.
- Post to attach the winch to and lay across driveway in front of carport posts - hoping to borrow this from one of several friends. Again I don't want to store anything I don't have to, but if needed I'll purchase from Home Depot.
Lynn
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Yes, the ratings of the trailer dollies are the tongue weight, not the trailer weight. I use one of those manual HF units to drag my trailer around. It is rated to 600 lbs tongue weight, and my trailer weighs around 4500 empty--haven't had any worries using it.
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