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07-23-2009, 10:03 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
rochester
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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torsion bar load levelers?
i guess thats what they are called....on my f 250 4x4, i finally have concluded that the safari 25 ft. pulls and handles better w/out the torsion bar hitch.....anyone else find that to be the case?
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07-23-2009, 10:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
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If that is the case you don't have them installed right.....
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07-23-2009, 10:18 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,720
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torsion bar load levelers?
I agree with Jason. In all probability, you may be experiencing problems related to one of the following: - Hitch Height -- with a 3/4-Ton 4X 4 this is often a problem. In many instances, a special deep-drop drawbar is required to get the hitch height low enough to function properly. Airstreams handle best when they are close to being absolutely level when hitched.
- Cam Adjustment -- with a Reese Dual Cam (if your hitch is so equipped) the adjustment of the mechanism mounted on the coach is critical to having a good towing experience -- when the coach and tow vehicle are in a straight-line, the cams must be well-seated in the cams.
- Weight Distribution Bar Rating -- with a 3/4-ton 4 x 4, you likely need weight distribution bars with no more than a 600 pound rating.
- Balancing Load in Coach -- often, stability issues may be related to having too much weight behind the axles. In my vintage coaches, the handling is always improved when traveling with a full (or nearly full) fresh water tanks -- in those days, the coaches were designed with this weight anticipated in the balancing and hitch weight calculations.
Goog luck with your investigation!
Kevin
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AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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07-23-2009, 12:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billiards
i guess thats what they are called....on my f 250 4x4, i finally have concluded that the safari 25 ft. pulls and handles better w/out the torsion bar hitch.....anyone else find that to be the case?
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Were you also using sway bars? In your case that is more important.
The F250 has pretty stiff suspension. So if the rear end only squats 2" or less you won't notice much difference in handling. What happens to the TV when a load is put on the hitch is the back goes down and the front goes up. If this results in a significant change it will adversely affect handling and towing. The WD hitch takes the weight off the rear axle of the TV and puts it on the trailer axles and the front axle of the TV also raising the rear and dropping the front of the TV restoring the proper geometry and handling. This difference may not be noticed until you find yourself in an emergency situation which will magnify any handling problems and could have some consequences.
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07-23-2009, 01:39 PM
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airperson
2006 25' Classic
Ft Worth
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Overlander,I have a used hitch how do you find the Weight Distribution Bar Rating
Airperson
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07-23-2009, 08:05 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,720
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torsion bar load levelers?
Greetings Airperson!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airperson
Overlander,I have a used hitch how do you find the Weight Distribution Bar Rating
Airperson
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Some time back, Andy from Inland RV posted the following method for determining spring bar ratings:
Measure at the top of the square bar as it enters the "trunnion."
1 inch = 550 pounds.
1 1/8 inch = 750 pounds.
1 1/4 inch = 1000 pounds.
Good luck with your investigation!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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07-23-2009, 09:13 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1998 25' Safari
Paradise
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 18
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I have a 25 safari, pulling it with a 08 2500 HD 4x4 duramax and I can tell you the dist hitch makes a world of difference in the handling of the trailer. Once I got mine adjusted correctly it was like the trailer is not even back there. It tows better than any RV I have ever had.
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