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08-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Tongue coupler thingie
Does anybody know if "they" make a re-build kit for this kind of coupler on the tongue of our '56 Safari? It seems to work fine, but we want to make sure by replacing any age-fatigued parts anyway. Is this something we can do ourselves or have to take to a hitch shop to be done? We didn't have to do this on Maxwell - and it's different looking anyways.
We are getting ready to call out a welder for the back cross member on our frame and thought if they don't make a rebuild kit for the latching part, we may have to weld on an entire new ball coupler thingie...and would want to do it at the same time.
Shari
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08-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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Married to Soldiermedic
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 437
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we ended up needing an entire new coupler for our 56 caravanner. I think Soldiermedic my husband would know more about that why dont you PM him he might be able to give you some advice.
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08-27-2007, 12:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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I think it's a weld-on thing...
Shari-
The couplers I've seen have been replacement units welded onto frame rails.. PO for our trailer backed up a little aggressively and wrecked the coupler, and had a different model ("Bulldog") welded onto frame rails by good welder/hitch shop... A little silver paint and all was OK...
John
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08-27-2007, 12:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 759
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I've personally never seen a 're-build kit' for a coupler. I think you'll have to remove and replace the coupler. The Jack looks like it can be un-bolted and replace on the new unit. The old coupler will have to be cut off and the new one welded in place. Anyone else have more and better advice...please chime in. I'm not an expert.
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Scott
Air 16426
Fully retired now!
Remember:
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08-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Thanks guys and gals!
The jack is one we got as a temporary "immediate need" as the one that came with didn't work, it was stripped. So I know it is just bolted on and could be changed easily. The part I am wondering about is the moving latch part...anybody replaced or re-built that without replacing the whole thing? I thought I remembered reading about that one time...o r maybe it was talking to someone, but of course, now that I need the info I can't recall the specifics. Any other thoughts ~
Shari
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08-27-2007, 01:07 PM
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WBCCI 11067 WDCU
1986 25' Sovereign
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 198
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coupler
I actually had the whole coupler cut off and re-attached. I bought the coupler from an Airstream Dealer (Out of doors mart-$85) and then had it welded by an old airstream dealer (three way campers-$150). I went with the better safe than sorry route.
Prior to fixing the whole thing, I purchased just the coupler lock mechanism from Inland RV. You might want to give them a call.
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WBCCI 11067
1986 Sovereign 25' CB
2007 Chevy Silverado 1500
2007 Toyota Land Cruiser
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08-27-2007, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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You can get repair kits...
SHari-
If structure of coupler shell is good, and you just want to repair the moving parts, you can get repair kits for the coupler, depending on manufacturer...
See examples at: Trailer Parts Superstore - FULTON Coupler Repair Kit, H.D. 2" FAS-LOK
I can't tell from your picture who made that one, or if they're still in business.. Doing Google search for coupler repair kits, I found parts for Fulton, Dico, Shelby, Bulldog and Franklin couplers pretty quickly... Maybe A/S in Jackson Ctr or manual could tell you who manufacturer was...
John
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08-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 759
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John,
Thanks from all of us. I've never seen those kits before. Now I'm a LOT smarter...could have saved me a lot in the past.....oh well. Live and learn. I love this forum!!
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Scott
Air 16426
Fully retired now!
Remember:
Never start anything before noon and always plan on being finished by 5.
I will never HAVE to be anywhere ever again!
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08-27-2007, 01:26 PM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
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A rebuilt kit does exist for the newer latches. I ordered one from AS of Spokane when I had my accident. Give them a call.
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Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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08-27-2007, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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The kits are available from Airstream - just talked to them about this last week. They are also available at many trailer dealers and repair facilities - as well as RV parts places.
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08-27-2007, 04:42 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
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shari
just replace the entire coupler assembly since you have your welder coming anyway.
then you can upgrade to a 2 5/16" ball.
john
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08-27-2007, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john hd
shari
just replace the entire coupler assembly since you have your welder coming anyway.
then you can upgrade to a 2 5/16" ball.
john
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John,
Yeahbut, if Maxwell has a 2" coupler, staying with 2" makes life so much easier. That is why I changed the Liner to 2 5/16" to match my Safari.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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You're right Bill, both Maxwell & Birdy have the same size balls so we want to keep them that way. Although, we do have different size balls that we can use on our little hitch (maybe the big one too???). We have two hitches...one is a little one we just use for moving things around the yard - just a ball on a post and then the big one we use with the distribution and anti-sway bars when we go on trips...make sense? We are getting way out of my comfort zone with technical hitch-stuff - I know how to hook-up and check everything, but I don't know what all the technical stuff is, sizes or what it's all rated. Mr.InsideOut does, he just asked me to post the question...
Ask me about "Inside" stuff & I can probably go on all day...but the technical "Outside" stuff is his domain - thus InsideOut (which was our architecture/interior design business name when we were self-employed) it relates to Airstreams too.
Thanks for all the input...I will pass it along to him - he just lurks, doesn't post much!
Shari
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08-27-2007, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
You're right Bill, both Maxwell & Birdy have the same size balls so we want to keep them that way. Although, we do have different size balls that we can use on our little hitch (maybe the big one too???). We have two hitches...one is a little one we just use for moving things around the yard - just a ball on a post and then the big one we use with the distribution and anti-sway bars when we go on trips...make sense? We are getting way out of my comfort zone with technical hitch-stuff - I know how to hook-up and check everything, but I don't know what all the technical stuff is, sizes or what it's all rated. Mr.InsideOut does, he just asked me to post the question...
Ask me about "Inside" stuff & I can probably go on all day...but the technical "Outside" stuff is his domain - thus InsideOut (which was our architecture/interior design business name when we were self-employed) it relates to Airstreams too.
Thanks for all the input...I will pass it along to him - he just lurks, doesn't post much!
Shari
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Shari,
I have similiar issues also, I use a ball on a straight ball mount on the PowerWagon to move either trailer for a short distance and need to use the weight distributing hitch on the Lincoln for long trips. Easy to change a ball on the straight mount but a pain on the weight distributing hitch, therefore keep both of them the same.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-27-2007, 06:01 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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This is what Inland has for a repair kit 2"
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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08-27-2007, 06:05 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
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yeah but, think about this...
shari,
if you upgrade both trailers to 2 and 5/16 you can always get someone to come get you if your tow vehicle breaks down. remember the blue list?
if you are traveling in a group you can drop a trailer off then go get the disabled one off the freeway. makes it much easier on the tow truck guy.
also, all of my trailers and tow vehicles have the same ball and 7 pin plugs! oddly enough, so do my friends trailers and trucks.
leaves lots of options when you are on the road!
john
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08-27-2007, 06:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john hd
shari,
if you upgrade both trailers to 2 and 5/16 you can always get someone to come get you if your tow vehicle breaks down. remember the blue list?
if you are traveling in a group you can drop a trailer off then go get the disabled one off the freeway. makes it much easier on the tow truck guy.
also, all of my trailers and tow vehicles have the same ball and 7 pin plugs! oddly enough, so do my friends trailers and trucks.
leaves lots of options when you are on the road!
john
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Yeahbut, when you travel with vintage folks and have a 2" ball, you already match them, you won't with a 2 5/16".
Trying to stick up for you, madam president.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-27-2007, 09:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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All our traveling buddies have 2" balls
Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
Yeahbut, when you travel with vintage folks and have a 2" ball, you already match them, you won't with a 2 5/16".
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Atta boy Bill! That was exactly what I was thinking...sorry John!
Shari
check's in the mail Bill!
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08-28-2007, 04:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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Compromise?
Quote:
Originally Posted by www. convert-a-ball .com website
CONVERT-A-BALL® Hitch System Products are your answer to multi-need trailer connections. No more wrenches, no more busted knuckles. Three interchangeable balls (1 7/8", 2" and 2 5/16") fit on the 1" shank. The 1 7/8" and 2" balls work great on the 3/4" shank.
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John - I've got you covered if you need help in AL.
Tom
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08-28-2007, 05:23 AM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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Tom, I have seen and handled those, they seem pretty well made, though I've never used one. Does anybody here use one of those setups on thheir stuff?
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