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Old 01-25-2014, 08:26 PM   #785
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Ken - I love learning about stuff like this and Ron is a wealth of knowledge. Maybe we can start a new thread (if there isn't one already) so we can all learn together.

As for this thread, I'll bump my own question about instructions (hopefully video) of swapping out WD bars.
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:50 PM   #786
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As for this thread, I'll bump my own question about instructions (hopefully video) of swapping out WD bars.
Check out these pictures of an installation someone posted on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rests/s...7618684477177/

(section 6 shows the bars)

The WD bars are installed after the hitch head is mounted. I believe all you have to do is detach the bars from the jacks and then remove the retaining bolt, keeper, bushing ,and bar from the head. then reassemble with the new bushings and bars.

If the pictures don't help, let me know and I will dig my manual out and figure out the steps for sure.

I will be very surprised, but happy for you, if you find any specific bar swapping info, other than from Sean.

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Old 01-25-2014, 09:15 PM   #787
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Check out these pictures of an installation someone posted on flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rests/s...7618684477177/

(section 6 shows the bars)

The WD bars are installed after the hitch head is mounted. I believe all you have to do is detach the bars from the jacks and then remove the retaining bolt, keeper, bushing ,and bar from the head. then reassemble with the new bushings and bars.

If the pictures don't help, let me know and I will dig my manual out and figure out the steps for sure.

I will be very surprised, but happy for you, if you find any specific bar swapping info, other than from Sean.

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Thanks - those are good. I'll look along with my manual.
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Old 02-15-2014, 04:44 PM   #788
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Sometimes when I'm turning after a full stop I hear something slipping in the hitch. I can't tell what it is - maybe it's the spring bar?

I was taking the trailer for service today and it was easier to reproduce it because it was raining which probably made the hitch parts more slippery.

As I said, this happens often but nothing seems wrong with the hitch afterwards. Did anybody notice something similar?
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:43 PM   #789
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Sometimes when I'm turning after a full stop I hear something slipping in the hitch. I can't tell what it is - maybe it's the spring bar?

I was taking the trailer for service today and it was easier to reproduce it because it was raining which probably made the hitch parts more slippery.

As I said, this happens often but nothing seems wrong with the hitch afterwards. Did anybody notice something similar?
Check the nuts on the yoke frame brackets. If they are loose enough the yoke could be moving when you turn. As long as they are lubricated generously through the zerk fittings, the bars shouldn't be making any noise.

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chracatoa sounds a lot like Krakatoa.

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Old 02-19-2014, 03:40 PM   #790
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Check the nuts on the yoke frame brackets. If they are loose enough the yoke could be moving when you turn. As long as they are lubricated generously through the zerk fittings, the bars shouldn't be making any noise.

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chracatoa sounds a lot like Krakatoa.

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They are very tight - It actually moved at some point away from the center. But I fixed that.

I guess I'm going to draw some marks with chalk and check if anything moved.

Not explosive - it happens to be my alias for a computer game during the 80's
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:01 PM   #791
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So we picked up our new FC 25 Rear Bed this past week. Colonial did the PP install and after a bit of tuning we hit the road. I got to a CAT scale on our return to Colorado. Made some adjustments to the jack heights, settling on 6 inches. Towing was perfect, even when we hit a wind storm with 30-40mph cross winds and a dust storm brown out (dust in every upwind side of the openings).

While the data points on that initial weighing weren’t complete I was concerned about the totals.

Today I went to the CAT scales locally and ran the full list of data points. 5, 6 and 7 inch jack heights, WD loose and the truck.

My take away is that my 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 is maxed out, both with weight and axle limits. Weights were with full fuel, full fresh water, waste tanks empty, some but not all of our gear in the trailer and the truck bed empty. Wife and dog were not included.

So would appreciate a look at the data and your inputs and suggestions. Also wondering what the upper limit folks have seen on jack heights. That might transfer more to the front axle but won’t likely change the overall weights.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:23 PM   #792
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Ghaynes - can you post pics of the tickets?
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Steve here you go. The data was entered in Ron's format in the spreadsheet that is in the PDF file.
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Sorry - I apparently don't see PDFs with the version I use. So I'm probably missing all the info about axle ratings and such.

As for weight distribution, looks similar to mine meaning, lots of jack lift without fully restoring the front axle load. What bars do you have and what does your truck manual say you need to restore (in my case it's 50%, not 100% ).

Since you're not restoring all the front, you are probably concerned about the rear and I don't know how far off it is. I'll see if I can see the rest of your info from a web version.
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I am not an expert on this but I do have a Propride hitch that I installed and setup myself and I have 25' Safari.

I looked through your data. My thoughts would be to increase the jacks to 8" and weigh again. You may also find that you need to change the tilt on the hitch head to give you even more range for WD. I think with your truck you need to restore more weight to the front axle to gain some capacity for the rear axle.

My setup is somewhat similar to SteveSueMac. I have a 2012 Chevy 2500HD with considerable payload capacity. I pull a 25' Safari with a calculated tongue weight very close to yours. I have 1000# bars on my Propride and restore about 60 - 70% of the weight to the front axle on purpose. I like the way the truck handles with the 60 - 70% restoration. But like I said this is a 2500HD with over 3000# payload capacity.

Looking at your data it appears you have a payload capacity of about 1300 - 1500 lbs. Is this correct? Your calculated I believe the payload capacity is on a sticker on the driver's door frame.
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Thanks for the replies. Steve, attaching a JPG of the PDF spreadsheet.

Bars are 1400#. Adjusting the hitch to put more to the front would be increasing the upward tilt, correct?

Max total weight for the truck is 7200#. Moving the weight from back to front wouldn't change the overall total weight would it? Total weight of truck by itself was 6120#. With the 1000# of tongue weight of the 2 truck axles is 7100# assuming I am following the math and logic of WD.
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Thanks for the replies. Steve, attaching a JPG of the PDF spreadsheet.

Bars are 1400#. Adjusting the hitch to put more to the front would be increasing the upward tilt, correct?

Max total weight for the truck is 7200#. Moving the weight from back to front wouldn't change the overall total weight would it? Total weight of truck by itself was 6120#. With the 1000# of tongue weight of the 2 truck axles is 7100# assuming I am following the math and logic of WD.
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Looks to me like the Cat scales increase/decrease in 40# increments...
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