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Old 06-24-2013, 09:12 PM   #621
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thanks Morgan guy (please tell me you tow with one!!). Is the 4* angle due to a washer? I think you're saying you can also adjust the angle of the box by adjusting the WD jacks to accommodate any angle, yes?
No, the 4 degrees is due to a slope I have to back up to where the AS is parked on a level surface. Yes, I use the WD jacks to adjust the angle to match that of the stinger. Once you have done it a few times you will find that it gets easier every time.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:14 PM   #622
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I forgot to answer your first question. I am afraid my Morgan would flatten her tires if I tried to tow with it.
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:15 PM   #623
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I always hitch up solo. The rope and magnet trick is pure magic at night or when hooking up at a large angle such as in the little semi-circular sites in some of our state parks. It also helps at the storage barn when the trailer is in deep shadow and the TV in bright sun.

I never tried it with my former ball hitch, but it should work there as well when it isn't possible to simply line up the TV with the trailer body.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:55 AM   #624
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Here's a question for my fellow PP owners.


In an offline conversation with Sean, we came to the conclusion that washers behind the rivet were not needed for my setup. For those of you who have used 1 or more washers, how is your hitching up experience? I've notice that unless I'm really level as there is no WD applied, it is tricky at best to hitch up as the stinger gets caught in the box at an odd angle ad doesn't want to go in.

If you're using washers to lower the angle and apply more WD, do you make an adjustment to the box trailer side? If not, please describe your hitching experience. Thanks!!
put the stinker into the PP hitch without the tow vehicle and move the jacks uo and down and you'll see the stinger angle change, match the angle to the angle of the stinger when it is in the truck.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:42 AM   #625
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put the stinker into the PP hitch without the tow vehicle and move the jacks uo and down and you'll see the stinger angle change, match the angle to the angle of the stinger when it is in the truck.
Another great suggestion richinny! Thanks much - will play with that this weekend! Great wealth of knowledge on this forum!!
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:47 PM   #626
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I continue to follow this thread as even with almost 2 years with my PP I continue to learn from everyone else. I've found that trying to have as straight an approach as possible makes the process simpler. If I've got much of an angle to deal with I'll use my "Swift Hitch" camera and receiver. Since I solo, I often wonder if it'd be easier to have another set of eyes back there!
My experience is that the second set of eyes spend most of their time arguing with the first set of eyes.

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Old 06-26-2013, 05:30 PM   #627
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My turn to ask for help

I have now been using the ProPride for nearly 4 years. I have had very little difficulty hitching.

However lately, I have been experiencing difficulty unhitching any time the truck and trailer are not on the same level piece of ground.

I have no difficulty hitching in this situation, because I can visually see the clearance between the four sides of the hitch stinger and the sides of the hitch box on the trailer.

Normally I unhitch by releasing all the tension on the WD jacks and then lowering the tongue jack onto the stand. I then raise the tongue jack with one hand while my other hand is wiggling the Rock Tamer extension bars. On the level, when all the weight is off the hitch, the extension bars will freely move the hitch within the excess play. However if the truck is on either an up slope or down slope in relation to the trailer, I often cannot locate this sweet spot.

I am eagerly awaiting any ideas or advice.

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Old 06-26-2013, 05:36 PM   #628
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I have now been using the ProPride for nearly 4 years. I have had very little difficulty hitching.

However lately, I have been experiencing difficulty unhitching any time the truck and trailer are not on the same level piece of ground.

I have no difficulty hitching in this situation, because I can visually see the clearance between the four sides of the hitch stinger and the sides of the hitch box on the trailer.

Normally I unhitch by releasing all the tension on the WD jacks and then lowering the tongue jack onto the stand. I then raise the tongue jack with one hand while my other hand is wiggling the Rock Tamer extension bars. On the level, when all the weight is off the hitch, the extension bars will freely move the hitch within the excess play. However if the truck is on either an up slope or down slope in relation to the trailer, I often cannot locate this sweet spot.

I am eagerly awaiting any ideas or advice.

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I don't know if this would apply to you but this weekend when I went to unhitch I was SHOCKED to hear the sound of the jack digging rocks forward as my truck was moving forward! I reconnected the OCLs and 7-blade connector, backed it up to the right spot and liberally WD40d the hitch receiver and stinger head. I disconnected again and was able to unhitch just fine. I'm thinking of making that a regular practice (just the WD40 part).
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:38 PM   #629
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Also forgot to mention, I think the "sweet spot" is when you raise the jack to the point where you can see (and it's VERY subtle) the coupler slide off the ball.
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I don't know if this would apply to you but this weekend when I went to unhitch I was SHOCKED to hear the sound of the jack digging rocks forward as my truck was moving forward! I reconnected the OCLs and 7-blade connector, backed it up to the right spot and liberally WD40d the hitch receiver and stinger head. I disconnected again and was able to unhitch just fine. I'm thinking of making that a regular practice (just the WD40 part).
Thanks,

I will give that a try. I won't have to deal with this for a bit. We are going home on Friday and our driveway is basically level. My first test will be when we take the trailer back to storage next week. There is a problem there with the layout making the trailer level, but the rear wheels of the truck, higher than the front wheels.

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Old 06-27-2013, 07:01 AM   #631
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Also forgot to mention, I think the "sweet spot" is when you raise the jack to the point where you can see (and it's VERY subtle) the coupler slide off the ball.
That is what I look for also as the "sweet spot".
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:26 AM   #632
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Also forgot to mention, I think the "sweet spot" is when you raise the jack to the point where you can see (and it's VERY subtle) the coupler slide off the ball.
I will watch for that next time. I believe that is the same spot that I find by wiggling the Rock Tamer bars, but it may be a better indication in these off level spots.

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I continue to harvest good ideas from fellow PP owners. I find it sometimes difficult when I unhitch to insure that all the weight if off the TV before I unhitch. If I miss I get a nice "clunk" as my stinger exits the hitch. I wonder sometimes if the autolevel system in my SUV contributes to this.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #634
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I continue to harvest good ideas from fellow PP owners. I find it sometimes difficult when I unhitch to insure that all the weight if off the TV before I unhitch. If I miss I get a nice "clunk" as my stinger exits the hitch. I wonder sometimes if the autolevel system in my SUV contributes to this.
BAB - that's where the "sweet spot" has helped me most! I've had a few of those "clunk" moments. For me, dialing out all of the weight distribution from the jacks is first, then I drop the tongue jack and raise it until I see the coupler lift off the ball. It's a very slight movement. Sometimes I have to drop and raise the tongue jack 2 or 3 times to be sure I got it - but without fail, getting to that spot enables a clean exit every time for me!
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Here's a good video on hitching the PP.



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After years of eyeballing the hitch height on my HAHA, I learned something new on this video...measure the height of the stinger to the height of the hitch with the wrench...gee what a concept!

Also, I don't know if anybody else noticed but he FORGOT to attach the emergency brake activator cable! That would add about 2.3 seconds of time to the total!
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Installed the P3 this morning. Added three links to the chains. Everything else was long enough.

My "before" front wheel well measurement is about 42 inches. After installation, I cranked the 1400 pound WD bars right at 65 turns on each side and got the front to within 1/4 inch. No time to get to the scales today, but I "guesstimate" I am within 100 lbs or so of unhitched front axle weight. My concern is that I seem to be hitch-high.

Nose of trailer and rear of truck are high, with the rear of the trailer a little low.

The hitch itself is nose-low. Stinger is at max drop.

Question(s): How do I get everything level and still distribute the tongue weight? Am I worrying about nothing?

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Congrats on the installation!!


Do you have washers behind the rivet? If so, I wonder if that contributes to too much lift at the hitch?

I think you're right - you can't drop it any lower from the receiver. How far off are you from level front and back (trailer belly pan to ground)?
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Congrats on the installation!!


Do you have washers behind the rivet? If so, I wonder if that contributes to too much lift at the hitch?

I think you're right - you can't drop it any lower from the receiver. How far off are you from level front and back (trailer belly pan to ground)?
Thanks!

Forgot to mention...rivet up top, no washers.

I'll have to measure the trailer later (but will do it by this evening), just using my calibrated eye right now.
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Did you check that the stinger was level as described in the installation instructions? I agree the stinger appears to have too much up-angle. You may need to add washers to the rivet to get the stinger level (attached to the truck receiver, not attached to the trailer).
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The stinger was level as described in the instructions. But I think you're correct in that I guess I need to "overcorrect" to get level after hitch up.
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