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Old 10-11-2010, 07:39 PM   #301
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Finished 1st trip with the Propride

Well we just finished the official maiden voyage with our trailer. We towed from Houston TX to Minneapolis and back with no issues. This is only our second tow (1st was bringing her home from La), but the differences were unbelievable.

The trailer and truck acted as a single unit and easily handled at freeway speeds of 70+. A very Zen experience with no sway at all! Rig was so stable that my wife drove for at least 50% of the trip (that alone was worth every penny).

All in all it took about 7 hrs or so to install. This thread was invaluable in helping me to fit the slightly unique aspects of the Airstream.

A few things I did similar to others:
1) cut the tabs one side of each jack to accommodate the propane shroud
2) used washers & nut to "elevate" the propane bottle tray above the U-Bolts
that attach to the yoke bar.
3) Utilized shorter (1.5") SS bolt on the back of the jack bracket. Ones
included were way too long due to battery box location.

Still need to get to the scales to get totally "dialed in".

Here are some pics of the finished product. Thanks for all of the great info here.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:45 PM   #302
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nice report hansom'

good looking rig (gotta love red trucks)

thanks for taking the time 2 post here and including pix!

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Old 10-25-2010, 03:54 PM   #303
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In an attempt to adjust the tilt of my 3P hitch head, I have recently inserted two additional washers to the tilt bolt (from 1 to 3). A question that I now have is whether this change will require the re-adjustment of the level of tension on the spring bars that I had previously dialed in. Do I need to hit the CAT scales again to make sure that the proper weight distribution is still maintained? My initial observation is that when I raised the spring bar links to the original height that I had previously marked, the front end of the truck now seems to be compressed more. Thanks!
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:56 PM   #304
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Your observation would be correct. If you drop the rear of the draw bar, which adding washers would do, with the same amount of height on the jacks, the hitch weight would be moved farther foward on the tow vehicle.
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In an attempt to adjust the tilt of my 3P hitch head, I have recently inserted two additional washers to the tilt bolt (from 1 to 3)...
exactly why was there any need to adust the 'tilt' of the hitch head?

manipulating the stinger with the bolt/washers is mainly used to deal with RECEIVER issues.

this is a case where PIX of the installed hitch and tv connection are needed.

no pix preclude any meaningful exchange.
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on a side note IF/when the rig is dialed in,

quickly take measurements (height) at the 4 wheel wells/bumper and receiver.

those height/distances can be used as basic reference/until scale readings are repeated.


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Old 10-29-2010, 12:56 PM   #306
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exactly why was there any need to adust the 'tilt' of the hitch head?

manipulating the stinger with the bolt/washers is mainly used to deal with RECEIVER issues.

this is a case where PIX of the installed hitch and tv connection are needed.

no pix preclude any meaningful exchange.
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on a side note IF/when the rig is dialed in,

quickly take measurements (height) at the 4 wheel wells/bumper and receiver.
those height/distances can be used as basic reference/until scale readings are repeated.


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The main reason for the adjustment was that the lower end of the adjustable shank of my hitch bar was previously pointing backwards (towards the truck) when tensioned up. I didn't pay too much attention to it at that time. However, when my dealer saw that, he suggested that I insert some additional washers. The shank is now pointing perpendicular to the ground, may be a little forward towards the TT.

As to your second comment, that's what I did as a quick check. Since I noted that the front of the truck appeared to have compressed more than before, I wanted to ask the question here just to confirm that I would need to redial in the WD settings. I plan to take the rig to the scales at the beginning of next
season to get the actual weights.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:30 AM   #307
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Pro Pride Install Project!

This was more than install, it's a project! It took about 4 hours with help from my buddy Steve. Neither of us had any experience with this product. It seems to go pretty well as long as you just take one step at a time. We had to modify the propane tank area to get the yoke support bar installed. Also, I have to get chain and electrical extensions. Other than that, no glitches. Now, it's just a matter of getting it dialed in.

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Old 12-04-2010, 09:32 AM   #308
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One more pic of it hooked up.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:32 AM   #309
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Also, I have to get chain and electrical extensions.
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ProPride sells an extension kit containing both those items.

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Old 12-04-2010, 09:33 AM   #310
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extensions

The chain and Plug extension should be in the box.Well from what I remember...They were in there.
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Nope. 100% sure it was not.

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The chain and Plug extension should be in the box.Well from what I remember...They were in there.
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:07 PM   #312
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I found on mine that there was enough extra slack plug wire near the "A" frame and body to ease out the necessary amount allowing me to not need an extension. The chains definitely needed a few extra links.
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Strange

Mine came with them.You can see my pics in post #41.
Maybe they forgot or changed something in the packaging system.Dont really know until you give Sean a call.

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thanks for joining us rik'

u r correct the installation is a full day of fun.

the classics went through a phase with shorter chains, then longer, then shorter...

sometimes the 7 pin can be made longer by using the slack.

sorta dependz on how much stinger drop is needed.

most of the safari/cloud/internationals seem to need the extension kit.

often only 2-3 links extra, per side does it.

the kit is not automatically included, it's an order item, as ken suggests.

i think IF ordered (or discussed with sean prior to shipping) it would be in d'box.

email/pm/call him monday, that should get the kit shippin'.

>>>did u order the 1000 lb bars or 800 or what?

>>>how much drop did you bolt into the stinger?

u probably know this...

in order for the w/d bars to reload the front axle,

there needs to be enough initial drop so that as the jacks are tightened,

the rear of the truck will come UP several inches,

the initial drop helps 2 keep from raising the trailer past level.

wheel well, bumper or beltline measurements can help with this till hitting a cat scale.

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Yes, I re-Routed and there is enough. I still am thinking about some extension just to be redundant.


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I have changed the Stinger twice now. I am going to mess with it again tomorrow again, probably. I don't think I need any tilt with the washers, however. Seems to cock it too far forward. I removed one washer, raised the Stinger and it's a bit more level, but now has more tension on the WD jacks.

I have the 800 BTW.

Wish there was a set up video somewhere. I would so do one if I knew the correct set up.


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u r correct the installation is a full day of fun.

the classics went through a phase with shorter chains, then longer, then shorter...

sometimes the 7 pin can be made longer by using the slack.

sorta dependz on how much stinger drop is needed.

most of the safari/cloud/internationals seem to need the extension kit.

often only 2-3 links extra, per side does it.

the kit is not automatically included, it's an order item, as ken suggests.

i think IF ordered (or discussed with sean prior to shipping) it would be in d'box.

email/pm/call him monday, that should get the kit shippin'.

>>>did u order the 1000 lb bars or 800 or what?

>>>how much drop did you bolt into the stinger?

u probably know this...

in order for the w/d bars to reload the front axle,

there needs to be enough initial drop so that as the jacks are tightened,

the rear of the truck will come UP several inches,

the initial drop helps 2 keep from raising the trailer past level.

wheel well, bumper or beltline measurements can help with this till hitting a cat scale.

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Sorry, I actually have the 1000 lbs bars.
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no problemo'

the 1k bars are probably a better choice

with your combo'

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Old 01-18-2011, 03:10 PM   #319
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New Propride Installed...

Here are pictures of my install completed on Friday, January 14th and scaled on state scales on January 17th. Install took about six hours with two of us doing the work. Thanks to Sean and 2airishuman for their assistance. Much smoother ride compared to my equalizer. We are using 5.5 inches of WD Jack with a single washer for stinger tilt.
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yeee haw!

it's about time

nice job bramer.

good looking rig too.

focusing on the lower left pic in CLOSE UP views...

it appears the yOke isn't parallel with the tongue/A frame?

perhaps it is, and pic is fool'n me,

but the 2nd bolt hole in the yoke is elongated,

and the bolt is near the top of the hole ?

so the rear part of the yoke looks elevated?

this probably doesn't impact function of the hitch,

but will make it appear that MORE tensioning of the jacks is needed.

so IF the yoke were leveled, the spring bars would require LESS lifting for the same tension...

does that make sense?
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i mention this only because IF it's not intentional, it is possible that the yOke slipped up some...

and the yoke nuts/bolts are not adequately torqued?
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ok, enough of that and thanks for posting.

that indoor location looks extremely level, a great spot for an install.

let us know how the towing/hookup and general maintenance goes.

the install time should drop some for the next new stream too...

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