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Old 09-07-2017, 11:59 AM   #1583
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I would be happy to share the files. I'll PM you with the links.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:52 AM   #1584
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Getting Weighed

I took my Classic 30 Slideout to Sumter Oaks RV Park in Bushnell, FL to take advantage of the Smartweigh program offered by Escapees, and had some interesting results.

First, I was pleasantly surprised by the side to side and front to rear balance of the trailer wheel weights. The side to side weight variance was less than 20# and the front to rear variance was less than 100#.

The Propride-relevant part of this process was the initially scary part. They calculated my tongue weight as 1400#. When added to my wheel weights, the trailer was substantially overweight. Remembering the weighing process described here on Airforums for the CAT scales, it said to leave the WD hitch head and bars on the TV when weighing the truck separately. Initially I didn't understand that, and it isn't possible with the Propride, at least not without a lot of work. After thinking about it with respect to my weighing results, I now understand it. While the weight of the Propride components mounted to the trailer ends up being included in the "tongue weight" as calculated by the CAT scale process, they should not be added to the weight on the wheels to come up with the trailer GVW since they are actually carried by the TV. They should, however, be included in the "tongue weight" when considering the load on the TV receiver. I think this is further evidence that the "tongue weight" as far as the receiver is concerned should be calculated by comparing the total weight of the TV alone with the total weight of the TV when hitched with WD applied, and would be most accurate if the stinger is removed when weighing the truck alone.

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Old 01-18-2018, 07:57 PM   #1585
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Propride "Hacks"

I recently made two modifications to my Propride, one of which I'm pretty sure I saw on here.

First, I went to Advance Auto Parts and bought a battery carrier strap. I bolted it to the top bolt on the stinger, it makes a perfect carrying handle, right at the balance point. I'd like to give credit to the original inventor, but I can't find the post now.

Second, I painted the front edge of the stinger receiver on the hitch body with white paint. I find that when backing into the trailer with the sun in front of me the shadow of the truck makes it very hard to see the opening for the stinger in the rear view camera on the TV. The white outline makes the opening stand out.

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Old 01-18-2018, 08:55 PM   #1586
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I took my Classic 30 Slideout to Sumter Oaks RV Park in Bushnell, FL to take advantage of the Smartweigh program offered by Escapees, and had some interesting results.

First, I was pleasantly surprised by the side to side and front to rear balance of the trailer wheel weights. The side to side weight variance was less than 20# and the front to rear variance was less than 100#.

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I went back and checked my weight slip. I was mistaken. The CS front tire was 100# lighter than the other three. Still pretty good balance. This was observable on my TPMS. Starting with all four tires at the same pressure, the CS front increased a pound or two less than the others at speed.

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Old 01-18-2018, 11:05 PM   #1587
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I recently made two modifications to my Propride, one of which I'm pretty sure I saw on here...

Second, I painted the front edge of the stinger receiver on the hitch body with white paint. I find that when backing into the trailer with the sun in front of me the shadow of the truck makes it very hard to see the opening for the stinger in the rear view camera on the TV. The white outline makes the opening stand out.

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Instead of painting the outside of the hitch body stinger receiver opening white, consider using silver reflective tape instead. Equal to white paint in the day, superior at night.

I also use strips of silver reflective tape on my tow vehicle rear bumper to help me gauge how close my wheels are to the edge of the pavement. The strips are placed in such a way on the bumper so that when backing up and viewing through the camera, when the strip on one side lines up with the edge of pavement, my wheels are a few inches away from the edge. Great parallel parking aid, as well.


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Old 01-19-2018, 07:12 AM   #1588
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I recently made two modifications to my Propride, one of which I'm pretty sure I saw on here.

First, I went to Advance Auto Parts and bought a battery carrier strap. I bolted it to the top bolt on the stinger, it makes a perfect carrying handle, right at the balance point. I'd like to give credit to the original inventor, but I can't find the post now.

Second, I painted the front edge of the stinger receiver on the hitch body with white paint. I find that when backing into the trailer with the sun in front of me the shadow of the truck makes it very hard to see the opening for the stinger in the rear view camera on the TV. The white outline makes the opening stand out.

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How about a picture of that carry handle you made for the stinger?
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:57 AM   #1589
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Instead of painting the outside of the hitch body stinger receiver opening white, consider using silver reflective tape instead. Equal to white paint in the day, superior at night.

I also use strips of silver reflective tape on my tow vehicle rear bumper to help me gauge how close my wheels are to the edge of the pavement. The strips are placed in such a way on the bumper so that when backing up and viewing through the camera, when the strip on one side lines up with the edge of pavement, my wheels are a few inches away from the edge. Great parallel parking aid, as well.


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Didn't think about the reflective tape. Great idea, thanks!

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I was concerned that the strap might vibrate in the wind. I dont think it does; it is pretty stiff. It is easily manageable with one hand, lines up and mates with the trailer or TV easily.

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I was concerned that the strap might vibrate in the wind. I dont think it does; it is pretty stiff. It is easily manageable with one hand, lines up and mates with the trailer or TV easily.

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Great idea! Iím totally stealing this idea. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:44 PM   #1592
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I stole it from someone else, just can't figure out who.
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Great idea! Iím totally stealing this idea. Thanks for sharing.

X2. One of those is now on my shopping list. Will be done by the end of the week!
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Lots of good info in here. I've been reading but haven't seen this. My question is, has anyone tried towing without the WD bars? My TV is a Chevy 2500 4 door and it has air bags in the back. I've towed with the bars tightened up and with them loose and hanging and it doesn't seem to be much difference. If I don't need them on there it would free up a lot of ground clearance. Has anyone tried it with them completely removed?
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Lots of good info in here. I've been reading but haven't seen this. My question is, has anyone tried towing without the WD bars? My TV is a Chevy 2500 4 door and it has air bags in the back. I've towed with the bars tightened up and with them loose and hanging and it doesn't seem to be much difference. If I don't need them on there it would free up a lot of ground clearance. Has anyone tried it with them completely removed?
Howdy! what size is your trailer? does your TV change when you use the WD's? Something out of whack here... help us understand..

maybe a fresh thread would help... are you talking about your ProPride or a regular WD hitch? What kind?
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Howdy! what size is your trailer? does your TV change when you use the WD's? Something out of whack here... help us understand..



maybe a fresh thread would help... are you talking about your ProPride or a regular WD hitch? What kind?


Yeah sorry a bit vague. Yeah if this is in the wrong thread sorry. It's a 32' Excella with a 3" lift. TV doesn't change to much but I've been watching some YouTube videos. Looks like airbags can bring it back up to normal ride height but there will still be more weight on the TV axle and less weight on the steering axle. Long sentence . So I guess the question would be how quick can I stop each way. And if it stops the same with W/D bars the same then I guess I answered my own question.
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