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Old 08-12-2008, 12:28 PM   #645
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Spring bar u-brackets come with the spring bars. I didn't see the hitch bar mentioned. Did you get the right size? Give Jarrod a call at x103 and he can walk through the parts with you. No pressure to buy anything, but we want to make sure you're getting the right parts and safe.
Ron, I was finally able to talk to Jarrod today. He was as helpful as possible, checked serial number of the unit, verified what I needed, and made a few suggestions that should help get things moving along as soon as I can come up with the cash to get what is needed. I keep telling myself the cost of the parts is still less than a new Reese Strait-line, and will work better when done.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:24 PM   #646
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as just another silly user...

i agree 10 might be needed on these new burbs and some of the new 4x4 trucks...

and they don't offer 10 inch drop bars, covered back in early posts and other threads...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ver-41577.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ion-43261.html

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In one of the above threads someone suggested maybe using the Blue Ox adjustable drop receiver and then use the straight, 2" or 4" HA drop bar to get the required 10" drop.

Here is what Blue Ox had to say:

Blue Ox does not recommend using multiple drop receivers in succession.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:49 PM   #647
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maybe using the Blue Ox adjustable drop receiver and then use...
yeah that's a bad idea.

even when a brand ok's the use of their own extensions or add ons...

the rating is usually DIALED BACK for the receiver extension or accessory.

it would be tempting to fit a bike rack, grill holder or ipod bracket somewhere in the mix...

but nothing comes between the stinger and receiver on my rig...

except for the nk mudflap bracket which slips OVER the stinger before insertion.

otoh, the folks making the other NEW 4-bar hitch have suggested THEY will have an adjustable stinger with MORE drop...

properly rated AND that will fit the haha...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ach-37994.html

as soon as that gadget is available we can it using it to the users guide!

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Old 08-17-2008, 05:21 PM   #648
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Why not just use a sway bar? I pulled our 34' Classic with our ford f250 and didn't experience too much sway. I will admit to being a newbie, but I was thinking a 70$ sway bar sounds better than a two thousand dollar hitch. Do you really get what you pay for in this case?
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:33 PM   #649
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Why not just use a sway bar?...Do you really get what you pay for in this case?
hi 'barre...

IF YOU are happy with the sway bar, keep doing what u r doing....

the question of getting what u pay for is asked and answered in LOTS of the hitch threads....

the one final correct answer isn't revealed in this life, perhaps the next dimension will have answers...

i see u r relatively new, so don't take this the wrong way, but...

it's not a topic for THIS thread, so please don't ask here....

go back and read page one posts in this thread OR try here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ort=replycount

in the top 50 'hitch threads' are dozens that include the $/worth/don't-need-it rhetoric...

so read 'em and find the answer YOU want...

if that's too much work, try just this ONE thread...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ight-8898.html

we're just users exchanging info on using/improving/adjusting/tweaking the haha here.

IF u are looking for someone to TRY to convince you that you need a haha many of those other threads deal with that too.

here is one specifically on that issue, i doubt ne1 was swayed onewayortheother...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...tch-36960.html

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Old 08-17-2008, 07:48 PM   #650
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tension settings

Hi guys
I just got back from a weekend trip and took some new pictures of my setup.
Please compare them to post 606 where the front of the trailer is pointed downward.
The tension bar is set at the top line.
The new pictures are set at the bottom line (looks like the trailer is slightly high in the front)
What do you think? Better? Level?
Thanks for looking,
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wrong pic in last post

Sorry...I attached two of the same pictures in the last post.
Here is a pic with the tension set in the middle. (sorry about the lousy picture..I cut off the front of the truck!)
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Looks a lot better. Have you noticed an improvement while towing?

We had to get a new stinger this season when we changed TV. Once we were level and set on the third line with 3 holes showing it felt better, especially on the twisty back roads. Plus we scrapped our butt getting into our favorite campsite.

My co-pilot hates it when I park sideways in the lots.
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...Please compare them to post 606 where the front of the trailer is pointed downward...
hi millva'

the combo looks a LOT better in these 2 pics in post # 650.

in #651 pic the trailer nose looks a tad low, but if could be solar spots affecting my view.

assuming the truck handles well and measurements or scale weights are right...

i think you've got it!

so how did it FEEL towing?

there is one small issue.

the rear tire on the far bike in the truck bed looks low and the derailleur needs adjustment...

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Old 08-18-2008, 12:12 PM   #654
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just ordered the replacement 8" drop bar from HA and I will post comparison pictures after it arrives. Thanks for all of the input.

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The replacement 8" drop bar came in from HA and here are the pictures of how it hooks up, including the one picture of the old 4" drop bar:
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Just a note, the storage space for the AS is about 1 1/2" higer that the surface where the Suburban is parked. The pictures hooked up are on a level surface.

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hi don

it looks pretty good now, right?

based on that last pix, hooked up and full length the trailer appears level.

the 'burb looks a little low at the rear but that's common and "ok" from my understanding.

of course axle weights are the real measure of ideal adjustment and don't forget tv tire pressures.

did you take a full view shot (like the last one) with the spring bars fully RELAXED, as well as tensioned?

a before/after tensioning makes a nice comparison view.

and IF you measure trailer 'levelness' with/without spring bar tension it helps in not OVER tensioning the springbars.

does your 'burb' have airbags/autolevel? there is another long thread here somewhere on that 'burb specific topic...

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did you take a full view shot (like the last one) with the spring bars fully RELAXED, as well as tensioned?

a before/after tensioning makes a nice comparison view.

and IF you measure trailer 'levelness' with/without spring bar tension it helps in not OVER tensioning the springbars.

does your 'burb' have airbags/autolevel? there is another long thread here somewhere on that 'burb specific topic...

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I did not take a full lenght shot with the spring bars relaxed. But I will later this week when I go pick up the trailer and bring in home prior to a labor day trip. I will do the meassuring as well. My Suburabn dpes not have the air bag leveling system.

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hi millva'

the combo looks a LOT better in these 2 pics in post # 650.

in #651 pic the trailer nose looks a tad low, but if could be solar spots affecting my view.

assuming the truck handles well and measurements or scale weights are right...

i think you've got it!

so how did it FEEL towing?

there is one small issue.

the rear tire on the far bike in the truck bed looks low and the derailleur needs adjustment...

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Thanks 2air
The AS tows great! To tell you the truth.... I really did not feel a difference. Maybe it's because I have the perfect tv?
I think the perfect tension will be between the middle and bottom line.

I don't know how ou do it 2air but you are right....the far bike tire is low

Happy camper Dennis
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