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11-09-2007, 06:31 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman
so they look like the black bars in post #88?
THE PHYSICAL SHAPE IS AS THE SILVERED ONES. THEY ARE EAZ-LIFT PIECES; POWDER-COATED A DARK, DAPPLED SILVER.
elongation isn't a big worry (like the pix in post #89/90) but ANY signs of fatique/cracking like richL posted in #279 IS an issue.
I RE-READ THOSE POSTS, AND THE ELONGATION IS MINOR IN COMPARISON; THERE IS NO CRACKING AND THE TORQUE VALUES ARE GOOD.
Based on the weight transfer you posted previously i had suggested those were 1k bars. IF you are gettting new 1400s they will have new brackets too.... and the wt transfer will be much greater, it sure was 4 me. IF you are getting the 1400 lb bars you may also want new bushings. My understanding (again back in the 80s posts)is that 1400s might fit into worn 1000 lb bushings, but when new the 2 bushings are slightly different.
UNTIL I HAVE NEW SCALE NUMBERS I WILL ASSUME THAT 1M W/D BARS ARE CORRECT. THE LATEST 1,4M BARS ARE SOURCED THROUGH PUTNAM.
MY HITCH IS OF THE SERIES WHERE THE BUSHING IS THE SAME FOR THE 1M AND 1,4M BARS.
cheers
2air'
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Thanks for the help, 2Air. I believe I'm ready to receive that new stinger, install and make any adjustments; check for TT/TV alignment; and get some new CAT Scale ticket numbers.
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11-20-2007, 11:18 AM
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#362
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
Somewhere
, roaming America
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,095
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Draggin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman
without seeing your driveway (pictures?) and looking at the ball height/ground clearance on your current white box, who knows?
i've got 50,000 miles on mine and richL is full timing. he boondocks in driveways all over america...
i've not read ANY reports of dragging, but i'm sure it's possible IF the w/d aren't tightened...
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Just to follow up on 2air's comments, since he took my name in vain : We've scraped the bottom a few times coming out of gas stations that have big dips at the entrance, but the scraping is always on the bottom of the w/d bars, which are fairly resistant to serious damage.
99% of the time we have no trouble. I think the few times we have scraped is because we tow with an SUV rather than a pickup. Our receiver is lower than many trucks, and our suspension is softer, both of which make the hitch more susceptible to bottoming out. We've never hurt the Hensley due to a scrape.
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11-20-2007, 11:41 AM
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#363
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hi rich
thanks for the report, you guys have clearly been in more of america's driveways than most...
and their mailboxes too!
mike asks this question...
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Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
This is for 2 air and any other haha users. Have you noticed reduced rear wheel tire wear with the Hensley. While not a scientific study I would swear I can tell the difference since installing mine. My only explaination would be there must be less side to side push on the rear of the tow vehicle. --Pieman
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mike, i've read a few reports of increased wear on the rear tires on triples (with or without a haha)...
scrubbing is greater when backing up and with sharp turns for the triples.
i've not seem much comparing tire wear with vs without a haha....
my own tire wear issue has been resolved (i think) and had to do with one soft tire.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...s-27999-2.html
so much trailer tire wear is related to inflation pressures and loading and terrain and tire age.
i haven't seen many haha user comments on the topic...
cheers
2air'
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11-20-2007, 03:05 PM
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#364
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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????
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman
hi rich
thanks for the report, you guys have clearly been in more of america's driveways than most...
and their mailboxes too!
mike asks this question...
mike, i've read a few reports of increased wear on the rear tires on triples (with or without a haha)...
scrubbing is greater when backing up and with sharp turns for the triples.
i've not seem much comparing tire wear with vs without a haha....
my own tire wear issue has been resolved (i think) and had to do with one soft tire.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...s-27999-2.html
so much trailer tire wear is related to inflation pressures and loading and terrain and tire age.
i haven't seen many haha user comments on the topic...
cheers
2air'
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Are we talk'n tv or trailer tire ware???
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11-20-2007, 06:05 PM
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#365
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic
Farmington
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 826
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reduced tire wear
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Are we talk'n tv or trailer tire ware???
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sorry Robert---i was speaking of tow vehicle tires , rear in particular---pieman
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11-20-2007, 06:39 PM
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#366
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Less Wear
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
sorry Robert---i was speaking of tow vehicle tires , rear in particular---pieman
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I can't believe that the arrow wouldn't contribute to improvements in
more than just tire wear...how about the pilot and co-pilot
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11-20-2007, 06:43 PM
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#367
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ok pieman, sorry for switching around threads,
your question DOES makes sense right where u put it...
so my long vague answer is over there...
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f40/...tml#post482040
ultimately i suspect tv tire wear has to do with weight distribution, primarily.
cheers
2air'
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all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.
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11-21-2007, 08:26 AM
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#368
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,167
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Tangentially to Haha:
Saw an ad in the new Trailer Life from Jim Hensley about a new improved hitch. The ad made a point about saying that he is no longer associated with Hensley Mfg. It referenced a web site that simply offers a white paper. The ad also had a phone number and a message that says "save if you purchase in 2007".
But no description of the "new" hitch.
Pat
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11-21-2007, 12:42 PM
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#369
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Joshua
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 548
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Jim Hensley
What is the web site that Jim Hensley has for this new hitch?
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11-29-2007, 12:34 PM
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#370
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,167
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Sorry to be so slow - I usually only check the New Posts area and missed your question. FREE Report: Trailer Sway Control Facts. But it doesn't take you anywhere but to a form.
Pat
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11-29-2007, 12:36 PM
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#371
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,167
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I have taken the plunge and ordered a refurb haha from the factory. It should arrive next week, so I have a project.
Wish me luck!
Pat
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11-29-2007, 01:42 PM
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#372
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmclemore
I have taken the plunge and ordered a refurb haha from the factory. It should arrive next week, so I have a project.
Wish me luck!
Pat
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Pat, go back to post 203 and you will see what you will get. It will also give you an Idea of how to install. Good luck and happy towing.
Jim
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11-29-2007, 02:15 PM
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#373
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmclemore
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I think I read that Propride is the new hitch company set up by Jim Hensley.
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11-29-2007, 04:22 PM
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#374
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congratulations pat!
and good luck with the installation.
jim's pictures are great.
don't forget to download a copy of the owners manual too.
my understanding is tha mr "h" has never been involved with the company that currently sells hahas...
as for the potential new hitch, company and so on,
here is a thread over on rv.net on the topic.
RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Travel Trailers: Hensley Alternative???
really it doesn't have much to do with 'the users guide' or our hitches...
and there are links in the rv.net thread that take you to another NEW forum.
looks like they've figured out that our efforts here HELP users and SELL products.
so perhaps someone wants to start a NEW THREAD here on this topic?
please keep in mind this thread is to HELP haha current haha users and potential users,
and like back packing....
take only pictures and leave only haha foot prints...
cheers
2air'
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all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.
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11-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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#375
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Quote:
...so perhaps someone wants to start a NEW THREAD here on this topic?...
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GREAT IDEA!
so let it be written. so let it be done...
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f161...ach-37994.html
this has been a haha users guide psa,
now back to the straight arrow stuff.
cheers
2air'
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all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.
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11-30-2007, 10:16 AM
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#376
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,167
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Thanks, guys.
I almost wavered on the purchase decision because of the new hitch possibility. And the possibility of haha having to drop prices due to competition. However, as 2air mentioned - who wants to be a test pilot when the whole point of this is to take some towing risk off the table in the first place? Ok maybe he didn't say all that....
Anyhow - this thread is certainly going to help me get the job done right the first time. If I don't start after the first six-pack, that is.
Pat
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11-30-2007, 10:29 AM
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#377
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ProPride Industries, Inc.
Commercial Member
Holly
, MI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pmclemore
Thanks, guys.
I almost wavered on the purchase decision because of the new hitch possibility. And the possibility of haha having to drop prices due to competition. However, as 2air mentioned - who wants to be a test pilot when the whole point of this is to take some towing risk off the table in the first place? Ok maybe he didn't say all that....
Anyhow - this thread is certainly going to help me get the job done right the first time. If I don't start after the first six-pack, that is.
Pat
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Pat, you'll be extremely happy with your haha. They won't be dropping prices so picking up a used one is a good buy for you.
With the new hitch there won't be any "test piloting". This thing has had more testing done on it than anyone could ever imagine.
If you have any questions about your installation don't hesitate to use me as a resource. I've personally installed more hahas than anyone working at the company.
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11-30-2007, 10:39 AM
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#378
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Sean,
Are you the person who wrote claim #13 on the Hensley patent?
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11-30-2007, 10:48 AM
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#379
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ProPride Industries, Inc.
Commercial Member
Holly
, MI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 642
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markdoane
Sean,
Are you the person who wrote claim #13 on the Hensley patent?
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No way! I don't have anything to do with writing patents. I only license them from inventors who would like to have their products manufactured and marketed. For their patents they receive a royalty from each unit sold.
I have no intention of ever attempting to fight for or against a patent. It isn't worth the time or energy. I would rather spend my time and energy servicing customers and growing my company.
Can you imagine running that claim #13 by an English professor?
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11-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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#380
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Woodruff
. . . Can you imagine running that claim #13 by an English professor?
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Yeah. That one sentence contains 1225 words, and only one period.
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