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11-06-2007, 07:28 AM
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2008 25' Safari SS SE
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Thanks for the tip about the Hitchin' Rods, Robert.\
Is that a Honey Brown? Are they required when you read the manual 
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11-06-2007, 12:25 PM
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#342
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2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Honey Brown??
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Originally Posted by bernermom
Thanks for the tip about the Hitchin' Rods, Robert.\
Is that a Honey Brown? Are they required when you read the manual |
 It was a one Honey Brown installation several Sundays ago.
 Not required....... but highly recomended.
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11-06-2007, 12:47 PM
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2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
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I haven't had time to read this entire post (great by the way) and the answer to my question is prob in here somewhere but I want to know....how low does the haha hang below the ball receiver? From the photos it looks like 10+ inches.
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11-06-2007, 01:05 PM
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About This Far...
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Originally Posted by millvalleyca
I haven't had time to read this entire post (great by the way) and the answer to my question is prob in here somewhere but I want to know....how low does the haha hang below the ball receiver? From the photos it looks like 10+ inches.
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 Never measured.........look and guess 
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11-06-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by millvalleyca
...how low does the haha hang below the ball receiver? From the photos it looks like 10+ inches.
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hi millva'
good question...
i haven't measured the 'hang below' distance...
10 inches is a reasonable guess.
IF your question is an indirect way of getting at 'how much ground clearance'
that figure varies a little rig to rig but should be 7-8 inches...
dragging isn't an issue.
take a look at the pix in posts....153, 175, 203, 212 and 215 for realistic approximations.
cheers
2air'
i did park in an rv campground where the sites were 8-10 above the roadway with 'curbs' to climb...
it was a close call on the lower surface of the w/d bars but still cleared.
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11-06-2007, 04:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Thanks 2air'
The only reason I ask is because I have a driveway that slopes and then levels out. To "level" my trailer the hitch almost touches the ground on the "slopy area". I'll figure it out....I'm getting a haha! anyway!
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11-06-2007, 04:42 PM
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... I'll figure it out....I'm getting a haha! anyway! |
good 4 u!
welcome millvalleyca and bernermom and bustersmith to haha land!
it'a good toe!
2air'
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11-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I just called my dealer
2990.00 plus 250.00 to install (2 1/2 hours to install?)
My dealer is checking with Hensley to see if they're gonna run a xmas special like they did last year. (I thought that was a nice thing for the dealer to mention)
I'm gonna finish ready this thread tonight.... o yeah...and order a pair of the aligning stick thingys!
Thanks!
Dennis
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11-07-2007, 07:13 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari SS SE
Southern
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Worried about potential problem
 AH, now I am concerned about that clearance. Our current set up 1 ton van with 22'SOB, and Reese hitch, hits the sidewalk when we back into our driveway. We have to put boards under the tires to prevent damage to the hitch. If the haha is much lower than what we have now, I am not sure we can get into our driveway.
The road we live on slopes down at the edges, and then a fairly large lip on the driveway entrance, with a large angle up to the sidewalk, which is of course, level with our driveway.
If we come home and cannot back in, that will be a problem. We could park it in the street for a few days, but not too long.
Maybe we could get some of those things they use to drive up cars to change the old, and lay them in the street to lessen the slope.
Anyone else have this issue and any suggestions?
Robert, is that Portugese Water Dog?
Thanks
Diane
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11-07-2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bernermom
AH, now I am concerned about that clearance.... |
using boards seems reasonable but some report LESS dragging after the switch....
posts 300, 301 and 346 address this issue...
without seeing your driveway (pictures?) and looking at the ball height/ground clearance on your current white box, who knows?
i've got 50,000 miles on mine and richL is full timing. he boondocks in driveways all over america...
i've not read ANY reports of dragging, but i'm sure it's possible IF the w/d aren't tightened...
tightening the spring bars pushes the van nose DOWN which RAISES the rear end and hitch...
i'm sure if you call the haha hot line, someone will discuss this with you and give you honest feedback.
cheers
2air'
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11-07-2007, 01:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari SS SE
Southern
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2air' what does the w/d mean?
When we put our current SOB into the driveway, we remove the spring bars prior to backing in. Is that what you need to do with the haha also? Or do you tighten them, not really sure we could get them any tighter on our current set up.
I will try to get some pictures of our drive, and our current set up, but that will not be for a week or so at least, when we pull it out to increase the pad size for the arrival of the Silver Lining.
Diane
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11-07-2007, 03:02 PM
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w/d (weight distribution) is another name for spring bars...
no, it is never necessary to remove the spring bars on a haha for towing, backing, parking or whatever...
basically, the only time the spring bars are removed, is for issues related to the bushings or grease zerks, like replacement.
and that is covered with pictures WAY back (post 87-97) in this thread.
also see jimclark's excellent installation pix in post # 203.
IF currently removing the spring bars (brand x hitch) before backing into your driveway,
that explains why the tongue/hitch might currently drag...
since removing the bars LOWERS the trailer nose closer to the ground....
download the haha installation and owners manual from their website...
http://www.hensleymfg.com/Documents/...nualmedres.pdf
save a copy to your hard drive and consider printing it too...
give the printed copy to your 'honeydo...
it will answer many of the initial, basic questions.
cheers
2air'
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11-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Pwd
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Robert, is that Portugese Water Dog?
Thanks
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 Your supposed to be look'n at the hitch not the dog!!!
Thats "Fado" (fate/destiny), our 2nd PWD...one of Gods best critters.. 
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11-07-2007, 07:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 27' International CCD FB
Mill Valley
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Fyi
Got a call from my AS dealer this afternoon.
Hensley Arrow on sale the month of December. (same sale as last year)
2990.00 for Haha
less 200.00 sale
but then they add 180.00 for shipping
and 250.00 to install!
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11-07-2007, 08:05 PM
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my dealer did/does the install at no charge...
at the time of trailer purchase.
2.5 hours is a reasonable time IF they are careful and get it right.
an experienced dealer might finish in half that time.
so it's still 3k$ any way u shake it.
the 250$ is probably money well spent 4 some owners (you and me)...
but many have done the install themselves, so it can be diy....
there is a scary looking OLDER unit on ebay right now...
eBay Motors: Hensley Arrow Weight Distribution Hitch (item 140175981531 end time Nov-14-07 19:24:26 PST)
at 750$, go for it bargin hunters!
cheers
2air'
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11-08-2007, 07:33 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari SS SE
Southern
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
Your supposed to be look'n at the hitch not the dog!!!
Thats "Fado" (fate/destiny), our 2nd PWD...one of Gods best critters.. |
Being a dog lover first and foremost, I cannot help but notice the dogs first. PWD's are very smart and active dogs, as I am sure you know. There are a few that compete in Agility in my area, so I see them at the trials.
Diane
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11-08-2007, 09:57 AM
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2012 28' International
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New Orleans
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Originally Posted by 2airishuman
my dealer did/does the install at no charge...
at the time of trailer purchase.
2.5 hours is a reasonable time IF they are careful and get it right.
an experienced dealer might finish in half that time.
so it's still 3k$ any way u shake it.
the 250$ is probably money well spent 4 some owners (you and me)...
but many have done the install themselves, so it can be diy....
there is a scary looking OLDER unit on ebay right now...
eBay Motors: Hensley Arrow Weight Distribution Hitch (item 140175981531 end time Nov-14-07 19:24:26 PST)
at 750$, go for it bargin hunters!
cheers
2air' |
Might be worth the cost as a core and have the factory do a rebuild.
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11-09-2007, 07:10 AM
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Okay, I've re-adjusted the strut rods according to thread-count preliminary to hooking up again next week. Have ordered 4" drop stinger on the exchange program ($195 to be refunded after shipping costs both ways), and the "emergency parts kit" to add to stores I've already accumulated.
I spent some time with Jarrod at Hensley talking about how to identify the W/D bars as to weight rating. Short of pulling them free to check the stamped end that is enclosed (and not having an inch-caliper) I'm assuming that I have the 1,400-lb bars. Replacement cost through Hensley is about $180 plus shipping.
I'm closing in on the $4,000 hitch after original purchase, hitch installation (including lengthening chains and installing a new power cord and break-away switch) and these chnages.
Jarrod mentioned that PUTNAM is now the supplier of the 1,400-lb bars, that, for the most part, EAZ-Lift supplies the others. Mine may be "new" but the serial number indicates that it is pre-Putnam.
Now, more of a question about "linearity", that is, TV-TT alignment. I notice in an earlier thread that you all were making strut rod adjustments and checking them by braking; looking for no movment to one side or another. I've already located a huge parking lot I can use for checking linearity. Any other ideas? (I get it about not making the strut nuts too tight).
2Air, tell me more of what you did on setting yours up. (Yes, I've re-read your posts on this). Thanks.
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11-09-2007, 04:50 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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Pulled the W/D bars and found this marking on end (cap):
65
1000
Also found some elongation of jack-leg connector where the bar attaches (shear pin bracket).
Finally, my "max" w/d bar lift was midway between the lowest and middle mark (2.0" of exposed inner jack barrel).
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11-09-2007, 05:03 PM
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...1000...Also found some elongation of jack-leg connector where the bar attaches (shear pin bracket).
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so they look like the black bars in post #88?
elongation isn't a big worry (like the pix in post #89/90) but ANY signs of fatique/cracking like richL posted in #279 IS an issue.
based on the weight transfer you posted previously i has suggested those were 1k bars.
IF you are gettting new 1400s they will have new brackets too....
and the wt transfer will be much greater, it sure was 4 me.
IF you are getting the 1400 lb bars you may also want new bushings.
my understanding (again back in the 80s posts)is that 1400s might fit into worn 1000 lb bushings, but when new the 2 bushings are slightly different.
cheers
2air'
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