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10-02-2012, 07:34 PM
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#801
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polarlyse
Now, with this thought in my mind does anyone know the paint code so I can mix up
some dark grey frame paint for my '01 Excella ?????? Come on now, someone must
have gone through this exercise at some point ?????
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You can buy the paint thru Airstream parts for something like $15 per spray can.
The last time I painted one, I mixed some black into some Rustoleum Dark Gray till it matched. Couldn't tell the difference in color.
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10-02-2012, 08:32 PM
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#802
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Welding on frame note: Don't forget there are wires running through the A-frame for your tow vehicle hookup. The insulation could be damaged by the heat of welding, especially if closing old holes in the frame.
doug k
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10-02-2012, 08:40 PM
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#803
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Great point to keep in mind but I don't think there are any wire forward of the point that they enter the frame. If in question you should be able to look in from the front end and check.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
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#804
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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I found the wire bundle laying loose inside the street-side frame of mine when I drilled for the Andersen set screw. Didn't nick it but I put a glob of sealant on it to protect it from rubbing on the pointed set screw.
doug k
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10-02-2012, 09:03 PM
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#805
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,418
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Good thought, thanks. The holes I need to close are on the curb side. I will check for wires before doing that.
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10-02-2012, 09:54 PM
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#806
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polarlyse
If you plan to do any touch up painting you can weld the holes closed and grind them smooth and go with your paint job. Should be close to if not invisible. That's what I
plan to do with the sway bar attachment when I remove it.
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Well, my tongue frame is black, so probably just squirt some black rustoleum on it.
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10-04-2012, 08:58 AM
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#807
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Well I finally got a delivery date....TODAY. The tracking info says it is out for delivery. I guess I will have to do the install for real now.
I am pretty sure I will have to remove a link from each side for best positioning. I don't have bolt cutters. Someone told me to use an angle grinder (which I need to get for another project anyway). Does that sound right or is there a better/easier way?
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10-04-2012, 09:30 AM
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#808
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Before you cut try just dropping one link and see if the D ring will still go into place. If so do your instal. You can always cut that link out late but they are hard to add back in.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-04-2012, 09:56 AM
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#809
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
Before you cut try just dropping one link and see if the D ring will still go into place. If so do your instal. You can always cut that link out late but they are hard to add back in.
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I already tried that, but it doesn't work. The D-ring is too small to put in a link with 2 links still attached. At least on the one I looked at. I will try once more when my set arrives.
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10-04-2012, 10:14 AM
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#810
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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You can cut them with an ordinary hack saw in a vise. They are not hardened steel.
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10-04-2012, 10:17 AM
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#811
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosm1o
You can cut them with an ordinary hack saw in a vise. They are not hardened steel.
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OK, thanks.
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10-04-2012, 06:08 PM
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#812
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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It arrived with a surprise!
My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
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10-04-2012, 06:39 PM
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#813
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Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosm1o
You can cut them with an ordinary hack saw in a vise. They are not hardened steel.
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... but buying an angle grinder is more fun!
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10-04-2012, 06:57 PM
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#814
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidsonOverlander
... but buying an angle grinder is more fun!
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Definitely!
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10-04-2012, 07:07 PM
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#815
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Kingston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 699
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich of SCal
My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
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Yes, very nice!! That's good to see.
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10-04-2012, 08:36 PM
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#816
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich of SCal
My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
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Depending how tightly the brackets fit you frame height, you may still have to take measures to secure the top of the brackets from tipping.
On my (less than) 5" frame I think the factory angled bracket would tilt to the straight position on the frame, better, but still not be aligned with the chain.
Good to see they're responding though.
doug k
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10-04-2012, 08:53 PM
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#817
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Rich
If you mount your brackets in the vertical position pace them so the top bolt is pushed down on the frame. Run the set screw in just enough to mark it's location. Once marked make a second mark ever so slightly below the mark the set screw made and use that as you center point. When the set screw is tightened down it will force the top bolt against the frame and may be enough to hold the top of the bracket from moving.
If you consider this let us know if it holds the top bolt from moving once you are on the road.
I had preloaded my brackets rearward to hold them in place. I was surprised to see that even with this preload the top bolts had marked the frame when I removed them. So there is rotation about the set screw.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-04-2012, 09:15 PM
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#818
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4 Rivet Member
2012 16' Sport
San Bernardino
, California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 443
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
Rich
If you mount your brackets in the vertical position pace them so the top bolt is pushed down on the frame. Run the set screw in just enough to mark it's location. Once marked make a second mark ever so slightly below the mark the set screw made and use that as you center point. When the set screw is tightened down it will force the top bolt against the frame and may be enough to hold the top of the bracket from moving.
If you consider this let us know if it holds the top bolt from moving once you are on the road.
I had preloaded my brackets rearward to hold them in place. I was surprised to see that even with this preload the top bolts had marked the frame when I removed them. So there is rotation about the set screw.
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That's a good idea. I have a 4" frame and it is very close to the spacing of the bolt holes, but I wanted to mount the top up against the frame, figuring that the set screws will hold the bottom. Your method should make the top secure. I may even drill out the set screw holes. If this works, then a weld may not be necessary. Unfortunately, I won't be able to get to this for a couple days, but I will get back to you when I do.
Thanks to the forum for bringing this issue (chain angle) to the attention of the company. I am lucky to be one of the first beneficiaries of your efforts, everyone!
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10-04-2012, 10:02 PM
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#819
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich of SCal
My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
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Hi, glad to hear that Andersen is listening; This will make their hitch more desirable.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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10-05-2012, 06:57 AM
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#820
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Just to see what their response will be I sent an email to Andersen requesting in the name of good customer service for them to swap out my old brackets for the new redesigned brackets. I don't think that they will be willing to do so, but it never hurts to ask. By making the bracket angle changes they have admitted that there was an engineering issues that needed to be addressed.
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