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Old 02-05-2013, 10:07 AM   #1317
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Safety does take precedence. Looks like The Atwood and the Andersen aren't too compatible due to the unique horizontal pressure that the Andersen hitch applies. Fortunately there seems to be other couplers safe enough to handle the tremendous horizontal pull of the Andersen as I do like the hitch a lot.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #1318
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I don't feel unsafe with my new Atwood coupler/Andersen hitch because everything is snug when hooked up. I can see the concerns about wear of the Atwood latching mechanism in general over time, with any hitch.

Is the Atwood latching mechanism replaceable when worn or broken?

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I would not say that the Anderson WD system is not compatable with any brand of coupler based on the few reports sighted here. There might be unreported or unrelated issues that we are not aware of. I have looked at several other forums that have active discussions about the Andersen system and have found no other mention of simular problems being reported by any one else.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:48 PM   #1320
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My old Atwood failed by cracking on the internal cup. It still held the ball just fine with the Andersen hitch. The cracking was prior to the Andersen. My guess is that it had 150 - 200 K on it when I replaced it.

My new Atwood is fine with the Andersen, with the first 7 to 8 K on it so far.
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This is the pin. Not sure if it is broke or not.
I just hooked up for a 2 day trip. The Quickbite is awesome and now is really really easy to hook up.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:12 PM   #1322
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The claw does raise just a bit on the Atwood when the Andersen chains are tightened and a liittle bit more once you start pulling the trailer. It's just the mechanics of it. It's safe as it hasn't risen to a level high enough to dislodge the ball. One must be diligent on checking the latch as often as possible and thus just enough for me to look into other couplers to use w/ the wonderful Andersen Hitch.
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Just installed the Andersen hitch on my 26' Argosy.
I did clean and inspect the coupler prior to the installation. I can't tell what brand of coupler it is. I can read a rating of 20,000 pounds. I can also tell you that the coupler was not welded on the trailer center. When you measure down each side of the "A" frame, there is about 3/4" inch difference from left to right. It appears to be the original.
After towing it a short distance, 20 miles to the scales and back. I saw no sign of the latch lifting. As a matter of fact. When I uncouple the trailer, with the latch released. I had to step on the bumper of the truck to get the ball to release. There is no sign as of yet, that it would release with the latch down, locked and pinned.
At this point there doesn't appear to be any slop in the coupler ball combination. Since the ball rotates horizontally with the coupler, can't see how it could wear any more than it already has. There is no scrubbing of the ball inside the coupler like there would be on a conventional hitch.
I have read on this form, there was one incident of the neoprene springs exploding. Probably from too much tension. So my question is. How much compression can they take? When relaxed, the neoprene spring measure 3 1/4" in length. So how far can you crank them down before they split? Also wondered if a metal sleeve over the neoprene spring would prevent a catastrophic failure. By containing the material within a cylinder.
Planning a 320 mile round trip this weekend. Will report back on how things worked out.
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Is the Atwood latching mechanism replaceable when worn or broken?

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The Atwood latch could be repaired but the nature of that repair would not bee worth it. You would have to cut the current standing fin off the top of the couple and make a new and heavier one. While this might work over time the problem would most likely appear on the lifting rod going down to the claw.
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There are repair kits available for the latch part of the coupler. Which include the latch handle, new pawl and lift rod along with the springs etc.
In an earlier post I said I could not ID the coupler. Well the sun was shining just right. Turns out it is a MARVEL. Having not heard of that brand, I surfed the web, that's where I came across the repair kit. Vintage Trailer Supply has one for the 2". So in further investigation, I found a kit for the 2 5/16" coupler.
My guess is that Atwood bought out Marvel. But I really don't know.
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There are repair kits available for the latch part of the coupler. Which include the latch handle, new pawl and lift rod along with the springs etc.
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This repair kit does not include the part that is failing, the standing fin welded to the top of the coupling frame.
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Thankfully this latch anomaly does not seem to be affecting Marvel couplers. So no big hurry to fix what ainít broken. I like the design and benefits of the Quickbite and am still considering swapping to one sometime in the future.
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Thankfully this latch anomaly does not seem to be affecting Marvel couplers. So no big hurry to fix what ainít broken. I like the design and benefits of the Quickbite and am still considering swapping to one sometime in the future.
I too have a Marvel coupler and just recently installed the Andersen hitch.

Can this coupler come unlocked at highway speeds and if so, will this be something I notice before losing the trailer?

This doesn't sound like a common occurrence with this system but I don't want to have to worry if my trailer is going to break loose on me. Wondering if I should return this hitch. I don't have 100% confidence in it.

I'm a single female that tows solo and I don't want to see my trailer pass me on the highway!
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link/image of Atwood repair kit. What other part did you mean Howie?
2-5/16" Atwood Coupler Repair Kit | 88061 | Nuera Trailer Parts
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kitty, I have over 4000 miles on my Andersen/Marvel combination and it locks up tight and secure. I have seen no indication of it coming unlocked or the ball coming free from the coupler. I use a lock thru the coupler latch (common sense action). If I were you I would not lose too much sleep worrying about this issue. As everyone should keep an eye on your equipment and practice preventive maintenance.
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