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Old 10-04-2012, 07:39 PM   #813
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... but buying an angle grinder is more fun!
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:57 PM   #814
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... but buying an angle grinder is more fun!
Definitely!
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:07 PM   #815
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My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.

Yes, very nice!! That's good to see.
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My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
Depending how tightly the brackets fit you frame height, you may still have to take measures to secure the top of the brackets from tipping.

On my (less than) 5" frame I think the factory angled bracket would tilt to the straight position on the frame, better, but still not be aligned with the chain.

Good to see they're responding though.

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If you mount your brackets in the vertical position pace them so the top bolt is pushed down on the frame. Run the set screw in just enough to mark it's location. Once marked make a second mark ever so slightly below the mark the set screw made and use that as you center point. When the set screw is tightened down it will force the top bolt against the frame and may be enough to hold the top of the bracket from moving.

If you consider this let us know if it holds the top bolt from moving once you are on the road.

I had preloaded my brackets rearward to hold them in place. I was surprised to see that even with this preload the top bolts had marked the frame when I removed them. So there is rotation about the set screw.
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If you mount your brackets in the vertical position pace them so the top bolt is pushed down on the frame. Run the set screw in just enough to mark it's location. Once marked make a second mark ever so slightly below the mark the set screw made and use that as you center point. When the set screw is tightened down it will force the top bolt against the frame and may be enough to hold the top of the bracket from moving.

If you consider this let us know if it holds the top bolt from moving once you are on the road.

I had preloaded my brackets rearward to hold them in place. I was surprised to see that even with this preload the top bolts had marked the frame when I removed them. So there is rotation about the set screw.
That's a good idea. I have a 4" frame and it is very close to the spacing of the bolt holes, but I wanted to mount the top up against the frame, figuring that the set screws will hold the bottom. Your method should make the top secure. I may even drill out the set screw holes. If this works, then a weld may not be necessary. Unfortunately, I won't be able to get to this for a couple days, but I will get back to you when I do.

Thanks to the forum for bringing this issue (chain angle) to the attention of the company. I am lucky to be one of the first beneficiaries of your efforts, everyone!
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My Andersen wd hitch arrived with a modification! The adjusting brackets are angled downward, which should fix the chain rub problem. Nothing in the instructions mentions this change. Nor do I see anything on the Andersen website about it. Anyway, it is a nice surprise.
Hi, glad to hear that Andersen is listening; This will make their hitch more desirable.
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Just to see what their response will be I sent an email to Andersen requesting in the name of good customer service for them to swap out my old brackets for the new redesigned brackets. I don't think that they will be willing to do so, but it never hurts to ask. By making the bracket angle changes they have admitted that there was an engineering issues that needed to be addressed.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:11 AM   #821
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Just to see what their response will be I sent an email to Andersen requesting in the name of good customer service for them to swap out my old brackets for the new redesigned brackets. I don't think that they will be willing to do so, but it never hurts to ask. By making the bracket angle changes they have admitted that there was an engineering issues that needed to be addressed.
I can see why they wouldn't want to do that from a business standpoint...i.e. the cost, if most customers wanted to switch. But at the very least, they should offer the new brackets for sale individually. Actually when I ordered mine I was hoping that would eventually happen.
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I don't see the new angled bracket as a complete solution for our 5" Airstream frames with its low-mounted coupling. We would still need to weld or drill/bolt the upper frame bracket to keep it from tilting out of alignment with the chain.

For those that already have the Andersen, the furnished brackets will work just as well.

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I don't see the new angled bracket as a complete solution for our 5" Airstream frames with its low-mounted coupling. We would still need to weld or drill/bolt the upper frame bracket to keep it from tilting out of alignment with the chain.

For those that already have the Andersen, the furnished brackets will work just as well.

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They aren't all 5" frames. Mine, a 2012, is 4". A friend of mine has a 2011, 19' AS that is only 3". So the solution would have to work for all these sizes. The brackets all seem to be drilled for each size. Now that they are angled it seems important to not order oversized but to fit exactly your frame. That should minimize the angling. Maybe they could add a second set screw hole at the top also.
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I think the bracket thing might be AS and some other trailer specific. The hitch is mounted under the frame on my AS, on my other Utility trailers and my neighbors SOB it is on top of the frame. With it on top, the angle of the chain isn't as much and is a straighter shot. The new brackets are nice though.
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I got mine yesterday. It has the previous edition of the brackets that are welded perpendicular to the bracket. I will give them a try as is. I started today to clean up the frame in preparation for mounting the brackets. Mine had a stainless protector on the tongue that had to come off. The Anderson brackets fit too snug to the frame to go over the stainless sheet. I was surprised how much surface rust there was when I removed the protectors. I would advise against using them unless you plan to remove them periodically to allow the frame to dry out. There was also a socket there for a sway control bar. I will weld those holes and paint the whole thing. I'm working now on matching the paint so we'll see how that goes.

So the Anderson adventure begins. NOW if Mother Nature will cooperate and let me work ........ ?????
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I got mine yesterday. It has the previous edition of the brackets that are welded perpendicular to the bracket. I will give them a try as is. I started today to clean up the frame in preparation for mounting the brackets. Mine had a stainless protector on the tongue that had to come off. The Anderson brackets fit too snug to the frame to go over the stainless sheet. I was surprised how much surface rust there was when I removed the protectors. I would advise against using them unless you plan to remove them periodically to allow the frame to dry out. There was also a socket there for a sway control bar. I will weld those holes and paint the whole thing. I'm working now on matching the paint so we'll see how that goes.

So the Anderson adventure begins. NOW if Mother Nature will cooperate and let me work ........ ?????
You are right about those stainless protectors, they are only supposed to be on the trailer to keep the temporary WD hitch from marking up the tongue while the trailer is being delivered to the dealer then removed.
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