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Old 09-24-2012, 06:06 AM   #701
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OMHO, but I read Tongue jack raised all the way, and modified suspension on TV. I have been following this because I am interested in the Anderson in the future. Sal.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:52 AM   #702
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as I recall, there is mention of "air bags" being connected/ disconnected (?) during set-up. Could this be the problem?
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Andrew T.'s photos seem to show the trailer near level and the Charger low in the back. Not sure though. The Andersen instructions have you installing the drop bar on the tow vehicle and the hitch on the trailer with both at equal attitudes, so when the hitch is dropped on the ball both tow vehicle and trailer will fall together, then the chains are tightened to level both.

If installed this way and weight could not be transferred, would Charger be low in back and trailer low in front? I wish there was a side view of this combo.

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I've been popping on from time to time to watch this thread... short of the Jeep and Argosy, I haven't really seen any of the poster's set ups? Thanks in the future for possible pics of the setups.
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Here's a couple shots of my setup.
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The attached pictures show my rig hitched up.

The first picture is my 34 ft trailer and my 04 Excursion

The second is the Andersen hitch just after I came home. Note the change to a new jack while on the road this weekend.

The third is the bushing unloaded. Measurement 2.956 in.

The forth is the bushing compressed. Measurement 2.789 on. This load dropped the front axle of the truck 1/8 of an in. While this was not the drop I originally set up it is the result of field adjustments I did while changing the jack in the field this weekend. The point is that the Andersen dose in fact result in dropping the front axle with minimal compression on the bushings. I will rest the hitch while completing the jack installation in a few days.
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Something was definitely wrong with his set up. We will only have answers to all the questions it has raised if he comes back with an update from testing on a more conventional TV or least a plausible explanation of his set up and results. In my profession if something smells fishy it usually is.
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. In my profession if something smells fishy it usually is.
Have you considered using this in your signature?
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Have you considered using this in your signature?
Don't think I want to do that. I am already too much of a cynic.
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Hitch brackets.

Hi, HowieE. Since I see that you already have some holes in your frame, maybe you could make some plates, cut on an angle, to hold your brackets on the opposite angle that they are on now. And bolt them in place using the existing holes. [just an idea]
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The forth is the bushing compressed. Measurement 2.789 on. This load dropped the front axle of the truck 1/8 of an in. ---
What were the front end heights

With no trailer attached?

With trailer attached and no WD applied?

With trailer attached and bushing compressed to 2.789"?

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I thought I had saved the original measurements but I do not find them now. As I recall I dropped the front axle 3/8s of an in.. That is about what I used to set it at with my old Straight Line.

What I just posted was only to demonstrate that weight is transferred to the front axle without extreme compression of the bushings. As noted I am going to go through my set up again but today was dedicated to wiring the new jack with wire heavy enough for a 4,000 lber.
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Obviously this hitch system was not designed with the AS in mind. It is clear in Howie's pic that the chain angle to the triangle plate, (which is caused because our couplers are mounted low compared the ones in Andersen's illustrations) is exaggerated by the mounted straps being tilted back to keep them from sliding. No surprise to anyone I'm sure, that this seems to be the cause of the chain rub and wear. So to minimize chain rub it seems important to mount the straps either vertically or leaning forward as much as possible, and still be able to adjust tension on the adjustment nuts. I know I am not saying anything new, just thinking out loud. Do I have this correct? (And I am not trolling here. I am very interested in this hitch system, but I don't want to jump in and spend yet more money until I work out these questions/issues for myself...thanks for your patience.)
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"Obviously this hitch system was not designed with the AS in mind." Bold statement.
Assuming that this is just your opinion. I don't think it is obvious at all. Everything man made is a compromise. I am very happy with my system and its performance.
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"Obviously this hitch system was not designed with the AS in mind." Bold statement.
Assuming that this is just your opinion. I don't think it is obvious at all. Everything man made is a compromise. I am very happy with my system and its performance.
I'm sorry, but this is not a bold statement at all and I am not trying to trash the company. Although, perhaps I should have said "wasn't designed specifically for the AS". All you have to do is look at their picture to see how the coupler is located high on the frame. This makes their design perfect for that type of tongue, but causes the chain to go out at an angle on ours. I am not saying it won't work, just that is doesn't match our type of tongue as well as the one they show. I am not the first person to notice this. If we had that type of tongue there would probably be little or no rub because the chain would come out straight...or straighter at least.Just compare these AS mounts with the Andersen illustration. And I am glad you are happy with the hitch. In fact, that is a main reason I am still considering it. Sorry if I offended you. It wasn't my intent.

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