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Old 09-08-2012, 03:59 PM   #491
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Actually if the Anderson hitch is 8" between the pivoit point and the chain attachment and the conventional hitch levers are 16" long, the force on the chain on the Anderson would seem to be twice that on the conventional hitch. For 24" bars it would be 3 times. I have not looked at the chain charts, but it seems it would be reasonable to size it to work. Hard to believe it would be on the market if it does not check out on paper or in testing.
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:24 PM   #492
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I'd like to understand this. Are you a salesman for these hitches? It sounds like your interest here is just selling these hitches. Is this a private thread? I assumed it was a public thread like the others. Maybe I misunderstood. Is this an "Anderson Company Sponsored Thread?"

I am new. But usually threads in such forums are public, and people are not told to "stop cluttering" the thread with their comments.

I see some people who identify themselves as "commercial members." I assume that's so people know they have a financial interest in what they are promoting. Yours doesn't say commercial, so I assume you are just a forum member like me, right? Can you tell me by what rule I am not allowed to post my thoughts here about the hitch? I don't want to run afoul of any rules.

I do understand that you don't like my comments. But, I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to make them. Can you be more specific about that?
This is starting to smell like TROLLING>> I suggest we just ignore it for now, until real data is produced.
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MODERATOR, let's close this thread. We have an individual that states that hes s not interested in purchasing this product and disagrees with anyone elses comments. It has been suggested that if he wants the specs on the product he contact the manufacture. This thread is no longer informative, just an argument.
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Actually if the Anderson hitch is 8" between the pivoit point and the chain attachment and the conventional hitch levers are 16" long, the force on the chain on the Anderson would seem to be twice that on the conventional hitch. For 24" bars it would be 3 times. I have not looked at the chain charts, but it seems it would be reasonable to size it to work. Hard to believe it would be on the market if it does not check out on paper or in testing.
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It is not correct to compare the chain to the bar type as you did.

If you look at the post I made this am at 7:49, you will see that the leverage for the chain style is 1:20. A bar type WD has much better leverage. Using my earlier example of a 150" distance from front TV axle to ball, the bars are usually about 30". So the leverage would be 150/30, or 1:5. That means the bar type leverage on the ball is four times greater.

The difference is the mechanics of torque. The bar type is acting with great leverage at right angles to the chassis, and the chain type is acting with very slight leverage parallel to the chassis.

I don't have any comment about the market, and i do not know what you mean by "check out." I am only examining how it works mechanically compared to other systems. I make no judgments of any kind about what people want to sell. It is an interesting design to look at, that's all.
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I personally welcome mstephens comments, analysis and questions regarding the Anderson Hitch.

Exploring all aspects of a new product's design and function can only be a good thing for all concerned, IMHO.

I say "Let's do the numbers", in case the manufacturer didn't!
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I personally welcome mstephens comments, analysis and questions regarding the Anderson Hitch.

Exploring all aspects of a new product's design and function can only be a good thing for all concerned, IMHO.

I say "Let's do the numbers", in case the manufacturer didn't!
I say you do a little towing with the hitch. Then post on the users thread. I think the title is the users thread.
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All comments restricted to actual USERS, then?

That would imply that non-users have nothing of value to add to the discussion.

I ain't buying that!
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All comments restricted to actual USERS, then?



That would imply that non-users have nothing of value to add to the discussion.

I ain't buying that!
Well in some way yes. I wouldn't go to the propride thread and tell them how it works when I don't own one.

your welcome to ask questions. If the answer doesn't seem to fit your bill call Andersen.

But looking at all other hitch or WD threads people are not making assumptions on how they work.. And please don't "Troll" as someone else has been doing.
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What is trolling?
Seriously.
(I'm kinda new at this)
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Help please.

Trolling?

Anybody?
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What is trolling?
Seriously.
(I'm kinda new at this)
Trolling is when people make post just to get reactions or posts from other people, and will continue to direct their posts (normally not factual) to get more reactions. All the while claiming it in the interest of the topic that is being discussed. They are not really interested in the Topic, but just posting..

And Once ignored they stop..
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I'm having trouble seeing who is trolling here........just saying......
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Thanks dznf0g!

I certainly didn't intend to troll, having no idea what it meant (I hate computers)
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A very interesting point. I just went out and looked. The ware is from the movement caused while the bushings are compressed and relaxed do to bumps in the road and "thank you mams" in the road, small hills and valleys.

I have to say that the picture show more ware than I would have expected for the time I have had my hitch, then again I live in New Jersey and travel a lot on Pa. 2 states that compete against I 10 in LA. for the worst roads in the nation.

From what I have seen to date this looks like the point of eventual failure. Not that it will be a catastrophic failure, the bottom of the bracket will just start to tear and produce a sharp edge. Other than lube I do not see a solution. If the tube on the bracket was changed to align with the chain that would put the nuts end of the screw too close to the frame for convenient access.
Mine are like that too.. I have done some re-fitting of much hitch, I will post latter.. If they move again I will weld them to the frame as Andersen suggests in their directions.
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