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Old 08-20-2012, 07:25 PM   #323
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Newbie weigh-in

I purchased my first AS (2007 Safari SE20) a couple of months ago and just picked it up this past weekend. After MUCH internal debate -- and scouring reviews and forums, including this thread -- I took a deep breath and bought the Andersen hitch.

This is my first time ever doing any towing of any kind, so I was extremely apprehensive about the tow experience. I'm also not mechanically inclined; I have trouble putting IKEA kit furniture together. Nevertheless, I managed to get the Andersen assembled and correctly tuned so the trailer and TV were dead level. The instructions that come with the hitch are very clear, even for people like me.

Towing was unexpectedly easy. The trailer behaved perfectly in sync with the TV on a wide variety of road surfaces and a wide range of speeds. Granted, this is coming from someone totally inexperienced, but I'm pretty pleased with this setup so far.

One quick question, though: From what I understand about the mechanics of the Andersen, the ball is supposed to move with the trailer tongue; this is why no grease is required. But if that's the case, then shouldn't the ball be kept free of grease so the ball doesn't slip at all? My AS had previously been used with an Equal-i-zer, so there was a ton of residual grease in the receiver. Should I remove all of this grease in order for the Andersen to work correctly?
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:39 PM   #324
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It doesn't "need" grease, but a little shouldn't hurt if it's not getting into that brake material.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:34 PM   #325
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As noted there is NO rotational movement between the ball and the coupling. There is a small amount of pitch and yaw do to dips and slight hills in the roadway. This movement in NO way requires greasing of the ball. One of the advantages of the Andersen is No grease and thus no grease on your pant legs while moving around the TV.

Yes there will be marks from the coupling on the ball but these will never amount to anything worth consideration other than aesthetics. Even with grease applied to the ball these marks will still be produced so the choice is yours. Clean pant legs or not.
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But the question is, does the grease need to be completely removed in order for the hitch to work properly? What do you think?
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:15 PM   #327
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But the question is, does the grease need to be completely removed in order for the hitch to work properly? What do you think?
The only problem with the grease would be if it gets onto the brake material that the ball shaft rides in for the sway control. So you would need to remove excessive amounts of grease, but shouldn't be critical to make sure all grease is removed.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:44 PM   #328
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As others have said, no, to only a tiny amount of grease on the ball is desirable. There is some pitch and yaw but no ball rotation in the coupler socket. You don't want to get the residual grease used with the other hitch system by the PO down the sides of the ball and onto the friction material, so it is probably good to remove as much as possible. That is the only problem with grease on the ball, it tends to move to other places that are not good for the Andersen.

I am glad you have had a positive first experience with the hitch. It is in line with everyone else who has used it and reported here in this thread. It is also nice to know that a new tower and user has had an easy time to set it up.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:32 AM   #329
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I purchased my first AS (2007 Safari SE20) a couple of months ago and just picked it up this past weekend. After MUCH internal debate -- and scouring reviews and forums, including this thread -- I took a deep breath and bought the Andersen hitch.

This is my first time ever doing any towing of any kind, so I was extremely apprehensive about the tow experience. I'm also not mechanically inclined; I have trouble putting IKEA kit furniture together. Nevertheless, I managed to get the Andersen assembled and correctly tuned so the trailer and TV were dead level. The instructions that come with the hitch are very clear, even for people like me.

Towing was unexpectedly easy. The trailer behaved perfectly in sync with the TV on a wide variety of road surfaces and a wide range of speeds. Granted, this is coming from someone totally inexperienced, but I'm pretty pleased with this setup so far.

One quick question, though: From what I understand about the mechanics of the Andersen, the ball is supposed to move with the trailer tongue; this is why no grease is required. But if that's the case, then shouldn't the ball be kept free of grease so the ball doesn't slip at all? My AS had previously been used with an Equal-i-zer, so there was a ton of residual grease in the receiver. Should I remove all of this grease in order for the Andersen to work correctly?
Welcome to the forum. It is good to hear from another satisfied Andersen WD Hitch customer. I have not been putting any grease on the ball. There is a bit of scuffing so maybe I should be putting a small amount on. I did call Andersen and ask about using grease and was told it was not necessary, but a small amount would not hurt.
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I would take a rag and get as much grease out as you can. The rest will make its way on to your ball hitch and you can just wipe it off then. This is what I did. It's hard to get it all out, but try and get most off it as best you can. You don't want it working it's way down the the braking sleeve, not that I'm sure it can even work its way into it as its pretty tight.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:15 PM   #331
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Hi, no-one has mentioned it, but would having some grease on the ball cause it to slip in the coupler, defeating some of the friction of the cone? Or does the chain bracket at the ball prevent this?
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Bob, Andersen told me that it would not hurt use a small amount of grease, but that is was not necessary to use any at all.
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Hi, no-one has mentioned it, but would having some grease on the ball cause it to slip in the coupler, defeating some of the friction of the cone? Or does the chain bracket at the ball prevent this?
No, the ball will not slip in the coupler due to any grease. The chains keep virtually all movement at the ball to a minimum. There is some very small pitch and yaw movement only. There could be a very tiny amount of rotational movement due to the bushings on the chains being slightly compressed on one side vs. the other, but all movement at the ball is very very minimal. I do use a tiny amount of grease on the ball simply to alleviate the bare metal to metal contact of the ball to coupler parts. It makes me feel better, but may not be necessary at all.
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Thanks very much for the input, guys. Much appreciated. I'll scoop out the excess grease in the coupler.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:14 PM   #336
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I've spent the better part of the afternoon reading this thread. I have always been concerned about the forces applied to the AS by WD hitches. I am sure I ignorantly added to the problem by choosing a Ford F250 as TV. The bouncing and vibration actually caused a screws holding the floor to the frame to back out on my first AS. In our current, 28' rear bedroom International, there is so much bounce that clothes hangers never stay on the pole.

I like the idea of the bounce dampening effect of this hitch. It makes sense to me. However,I have Rock Tamer mud flap that attach to the hitch where it goes into the receiver. Does anyone with the Anderson hitch have these flaps or know if there is enough room, about 2 inches for the collar holding the flaps to the hitch to fit?

Thanks for a great discussion
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