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Old 09-18-2013, 08:36 AM   #2283
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The only way to reduce the sway control on the Andersen is to reduce the tongue weight. Since it is a tapered assembly. Reducing the tongue weight would not be a good idea since it has an effect on handling in general.
If you were to disconnect the chains, thus removing the weight distribution you would release the sway control function because the ball would no longer turn with the trailer.
I have driven in heavy rain as well as snow and slushy roads and have had no problems with handling.
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:48 AM   #2284
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This is a (another) problem with Andersen, the friction resists moving to the side but also resists returning to straight line when turning or correcting steering on the highway, as when a large truck passes. You can't release the friction. This is a greater problem with Andersen because of its limited ability to transfer weight to the front axle, allowing lightened steering.

We experienced that condition last year with Andersen while on the interstate near Chicago, cold heavy mist, heavy truck traffic, so pulled of the road for the night. Very uncomfortable.

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Old 09-18-2013, 01:20 PM   #2285
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All anti sway devices restrict movements in both directions. The conventional "slide bar" type cause real over steering problems when driving on curved roads. The over steering problems occur when going into and out of a curve. Because you have to steer hard enough to overcome the friction of the anti sway device.
A body at rest tends to stay at rest. A body in motion tends to stay at motion. Comes to mind.
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Let us not forget " For every action there is an equal and opposite re-action ". Another one of those funky laws of physics that I could never recall when I needed to recall it.
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Back when I had to remembering the Laws of Physics, for a test, I would write them on the palm of my hand. When I got to thermodynamics the hands just weren't big enough so just had to learn them.

The problem I am having now is to remember my trailer is behind me. Unlike a few that seam to have had a problem with the Andersen I have to keep looking in the mirror to see if the trailer is still back there. Without the sway, porpoising, and noise one can easily forget it's there.

Oh and keep in mind if you are driving on ice, snow or just a wet road you DO NOT DO CORRECTIVE STEERING to get out of a skid. That will amplify the problem. Hold steady on the wheel, accelerate, and apply the manual trailer brake.

My last trip on snow was from Winnipeg to the turn north for Calgary. I turned south at that point because the road was closed north bound and than headed into a real snow storm for Missoula. At one point we had to stop for 45 min. because of a white out. After helping to dig out an 18 wheeler stuck on a flat parking lot from blown in snow we were back on the road. A fun filled 3 days.

That was with a Reese system but I would have much more faith in doing it with an Andersen. But then again that is what makes horse racing, a difference of opinion.
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Hey guys; after 165 pages and 2287 posts isn't the horse dead? Moderator??
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Hey guys; after 165 pages and 2287 posts isn't the horse dead? Moderator??
Why would one take that position? There are several hundred thousand post here on Airstream trailers, many repeating old topics, there are ten thousands on Goodyear tires and there are thousands of posts on any number of other topics. Should any or all of those posts be closed or removed? If one is no longer interested in this topic one can unsubscribe from the thread. But to ask that it be closed or removed would deprive the posting of new information and new comes from the history represented here.
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There is a huge resource of information here on this thread. There is no reason whatsoever for it to be discontinued. If someone is not interested in it, don't read it. There are a lot of threads which I ignore, but this one is of interest to me, as an Andersen user.

BTW, I just got back from another pleasant 1000 miles of Andersen towing. I continue to feel it is a very good hitch, easy to use, and lightweight, and excellent to tow with.
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Ok page 24 post 335; is where I ordered my Andersen. I read all the posts to that point and continued to read almost all posts since then. There has been alot of very useful information; from chain length, ball wear, anti-sway, weight distributation and installation. I am still learning, but how many times do we hear the same thing over and over?
Yes, GYM is another thread that has taken alot of hits, and now there is several threads on the same subject.
"The right to carry" was another thread that was repeated, but it got shut down???
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Hey guys; after 165 pages and 2287 posts isn't the horse dead? Moderator??
I agree with the others, nobody makes us follow any particular thread and there might be new information forthcoming. This thread has trended toward reports from actual users who have some real information (mostly good) to share. Apparently, the non-users are beginning to realize that the Andersen hitch performs well for a lot of us. We are down to only one who feels like he has to repeat his disappointment over and over and over. I look forward to reading about both the good and the bad experiences from other users.
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I agree with the others, nobody makes us follow any particular thread and there might be new information forthcoming. This thread has trended toward reports from actual users who have some real information (mostly good) to share. Apparently, the non-users are beginning to realize that the Andersen hitch performs well for a lot of us. We are down to only one who feels like he has to repeat his disappointment over and over and over. I look forward to reading about both the good and the bad experiences from other users.
I agree Rendrag.
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I agree with the others, nobody makes us follow any particular thread and there might be new information forthcoming. This thread has trended toward reports from actual users who have some real information (mostly good) to share. Apparently, the non-users are beginning to realize that the Andersen hitch performs well for a lot of us. We are down to only one who feels like he has to repeat his disappointment over and over and over. I look forward to reading about both the good and the bad experiences from other users.
Personally I don't think your statements are true, Rendrag.

I have observed post after post stating the same things on here about how people have just towed another 1000 or so miles, and they still like the hitch. Sort of redundant, but no one makes a comment.

However, if someone states one negative thing about the Andersen, no mater if they are an Andersen hitch owner/user, or not, there are many on here that jump on that poster like a duck on a June bug.

You are "down to only one" who will say anything but positive statements about the Andersen, in spite of all it's shortcomings because of this.
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Lets bring this up to date.

The Andersen hitch is a new approach to an old problem. Like any new approach there will be issues that are recognized as advancement and those that are recognized as shortfalls when compared to the older approaches. Given that fact each individual has to compare the advantages presented by the new approach and against any advantages they may have with the older approach. It comes down to a list of Pros and Cons. Generally one will make their decision based on such a list.

Those posting here that are satisfied with the Andersen comment on the improved sway control, reduction of noise, lack of porpoising, ease of hitching, simplicity, and reduced cost.

There were initial issues regarding the angle of the chains when installed on some tongue widths. That issue was addressed and corrected by Andersen. There was a suggestion I made that a limiting system be included at the bottom of the ball shaft to keep it from popping out while lifting the rig. I believe that has been addressed.

Those posting here with dissatisfaction with the hitch generally relate to a limitation of the type of tow vehicle that it can be used with. That being when using a lightly sprung TV the hitch can not transfer enough weight to the front axle of the TV to return the original steering geometry. That is a valid comment and those towing with a lightly sprung TV and heaver tongue weighted trailer should consider that before buying.

There will always be a difference of opinions on any subject. That is not justification to limited or discontinued the discussion.

As I stated at the beginning of this thread I did not see how this hitch could work. It took me a day to get my head around it and then go back and buy one. I posted this tread for those who might also have that initial reaction. It appears that the majority of those that have considered the Andersen and have bought and used it have come to the same conclusion I did. It works by offers significant improvements in operation, improves handling, and cost far less them most other WD hitches.
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