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Old 07-16-2013, 11:15 PM   #2185
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I have the Anderson and have these observations. I must add this is my first ever weight distributing hitch and I really want it to work.

1. Its clean and the individual pieces are not heavy.
2. I've never had sway. Not sure this hitch stopped it, just haven't had it.
3. Its made in the USA and it is well made.
4. It barely redistributes enough weigh for my TV to stay within its rear axle rating.

That's the rub. I really want this hitch to work but for my application its marginal. I have a Ford Expedition SUV pulling a 27FB, maybe 900lb hitch weight. Weight carrying this adds about about 1200 lbs to the rear axle. By tightening the bushings a lot to where the begin to bulge over the washer I can move about 300 lbs off the rear. Problem for me is my Expedition can only take about 1,000 lbs on the rear axle. Add me, my wife and dog then we're done. No luggage. All the time the front rides lighter than unloaded. I still have 300 lbs of payload unused.

In my opinion, and after reading most of this thread, this hitch is excellent for smaller trailers and TV combinations, or for stout TV's that don't need a lot of weight distribution due to their inherent strength. For those with moderately heavy hitch weights and F-150 or less, probably marginal.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:34 PM   #2186
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On the friction material: Andersen guarantees it for life, and will replace any which has become damaged for any reason. I also believe that they have changed their friction material since the hitch was introduced for a different kind, possibly because the original was not preforming as well as they expected. I know that when I visited the factory with an issue, they replaced my friction material on my early production hitch. So, if there is any problem with the friction material, Andersen stands behind it 100%, for life.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:23 AM   #2187
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How does 900 pounds tongue weight become 1200 when you hitch up? Maybe I don't understand some point in towing.
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I have the Anderson and have these observations. I must add this is my first ever weight distributing hitch and I really want it to work.

1. Its clean and the individual pieces are not heavy.
2. I've never had sway. Not sure this hitch stopped it, just haven't had it.
3. Its made in the USA and it is well made.
4. It barely redistributes enough weigh for my TV to stay within its rear axle rating.
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You got that right. The Andersen is probably not the best device for those who need to balance a tow vehicle with an overloaded rear axle. Four foot long steel pry bars are better suited to unburdening the rear suspension. When the weight of fuel, an extra passenger, generator, or tool boxes has to be taken into consideration, things are too close for comfort. For me.

I do hope that you can report back that the first three items are true about your new hitch.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:31 AM   #2189
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How does 900 pounds tongue weight become 1200 when you hitch up? Maybe I don't understand some point in towing.
The physics of situation. A push down on the hitch is offset by an opposite upward push on the front axle. The rear axle is the pivot point. So the rear axle takes on the 900 lbs of hitch and an additional 300 lbs that's unloaded from the front that's needed to balance things out. Thus the 1200 lbs. In my case the Anderson is able to just redistribute that extra 300 lbs off, split between the trailer and front axle, but it can't do any more. As a result the front wheel well measurements do no return to the unloaded heights as per the Anderson instructions.

That said I can use the hitch, just can put anything in my tow vehicle. Also, the brake gasket material has already deformed and is squeezing out, probably because I have the bushings tightened close to their limits.

Please don't misread my observations, I not trying to badmouth this hitch. When I can afford to I'm replacing my tow vehicle with something stouter, that doesn't need such aggressive weight redistribution, and for that I think the which will be fine.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:25 AM   #2190
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K. Sounds like you might need to buy another brand of WD system. Of course you will have to write a rather large check sooner than later. Good Luck.
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---As a result the front wheel well measurements do no return to the unloaded heights as per the Anderson instructions.
The Andersen instructions which were sent to me state:
---The trailer should be level (within 1") and the tow vehicle should be pretty close to level.---
After hundreds of installation, we have found that it is just as effective to basically "sight level" the tow vehicle and get it as close to level as you can by tightening/loosening the Tension Nuts.

I interpret the Andersen instructions to say that, if the TV is "level" before hitching, the hitch should be adjusted so there is nearly equal drop at the front and rear of the TV.
This suggests to me that Andersen believes their "No-Sway" WDH works best when there is a significant amount of extra load added to the TV's front axle.
Unfortunately, user data has shown that, for tongue weights in excess of 500-600# it is difficult to return the front axle to unhitched load -- little lone being able to add additional load.

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That said I can use the hitch, just can{'t} put anything in my tow vehicle. Also, the brake gasket material has already deformed and is squeezing out, probably because I have the bushings tightened close to their limits.
(I assume you meant "can't")

You are well below the tongue weight rating of the hitch. If the rating is correct, the bushings and friction material should be able to withstand much more load than you have applied.

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"If the rating is correct, the bushings and friction material should be able to withstand much more load than you have applied."

Why is that? Is the hitch rating tied to 100% Front Axle Load Restoration now? Or is that another "assumption"?
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:17 AM   #2193
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Andersen could solve many of the problems we users have had with this hitch by substantially lowering the recommended the trailer weights it can be used with.

It is irresponsible for them to continue to sell the hitch knowing many users are towing with dangerously lightened front steering axles. It became clearly evident to me when coming onto slippery highway surfaces (we pulled off the roadway for the evening).

Again, some of us would like to have these concerns answered by the manufacturer. Andersen, it's your turn.

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Here's the deal. Manufacturers, including the tow vehicle builders, choose the optimum conditions to get their ratings. Do you think they take one of their run of the mill vehicles out to the test track and hitch up to the largest travel trailer they can find? I agree that the ratings that Andersen, Chevrolet, Ford, and others provide are seldom real world.

However, I would not hesitate in hitching up a 10,000 pound trailer with a 1400 pound tongue weight to my 2500HD pickup using an Andersen hitch I would be under all ratings, including payload and GCWR. Snug up the bushings and head on down the road. Not an extreme example.

Taking the best case scenario is no worse than the naysayers on here who choose to quote a few worst case instances.
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(I assume you meant "can't")

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Gads. I'm embarrassed by my post. The typo's. Its partly due to my android pad aggressively "correcting" a typo with a word it thinks is right. Need to proof these posts better.
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Maintaining steering geometry is not the major consideration as regards "sway control". The major consideration is maintaining enough load on the front tires so that sufficient steering force is generated. I'm surprised that you would deny this now after stating it in so many of your previous posts. Here's an example:

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Ron I don't mind you quoting and misusing my comment that pertain to the use of a Bar type WD hitch. I trust most readers can see through that ploy. I do mind you attempting to continue your discrediting of the hitch by making outright misleading statements. If you can explain where you see a difference between "maintaining steering geometry" and "maintaining enough load on the front tires" we will all be well served.
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Alternative Hitch

I've read with interest the 2196 posts on this thread about the new Anderson hitch. I've been impressed and sometimes amazed at the passion people on the forums have for this hitch and other hitch technologies and brands. After reading all of the stories about parts failing, improper weight distribution, trailer sway accidents and other hitch related disasters I must say I'm very concerned about risking life and limb when hitching up my Airstream. When I then turn to the tow vehicle threads I become downright paranoid. Not to mention the tire problems and leak issues.

I've come to the conclusion modern travel trailer technology is too complicated for mere mortals to comprehend and is getting in the way of enjoying camping. I've therefore decided to sell my Airstream and adopt proven hitch and towing technologies.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:55 PM   #2198
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Hi Florida 55. I love the pictures of the Wagonstreamer. Ya know they have to have parts repaired and replaced from time to time. I'll bet that there has been improvements made over the last several thousand years or so with hitching and harness. I still prefer our 87 25' Sovereign with an 01 F-150 using the Andersen hitch and Quick-bite coupler.
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