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Old 06-19-2013, 01:17 PM   #2031
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Can anyone recommend to me a 100% perfect in every way replacement.
Minimum requirements: under 70lbs, under $500, greaseless, quiet, build in anti-sway, outstanding company support and of course 100% weight distribution with any TV/trailer combination.
Why sure Michael ! BLUE OX meets all your needs ! The head weighs 68 pounds ( I weighed it ), the bars are of the "clean" design ( no more grease on your sporty slacks ), makes no noise, built in anti-sway, check ! ....I've talked to REAL folks on the phone at the company HQ in Nebraska when I called....and they even have a CG there where you can stay for free if you are a customer ( and they offered to look over my setup to ensure it was right ).....and 100% FALR.

So there you go.....toss that magical "A" brand wannabe hitch in the recycle heap....and get a "real" hitch....maybe buy two, and send one to Howie ?

( oh boy....I've started it now.... )
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #2032
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Close but no Cigar. The shipping weight of the Andersen complete is under 70 lbs. You forgot the bars, chains, and brackets.

Thanks for the idea of buying 2 with one for me but i am tying to buy Doug'. I think he won't sell it because deep down he knows he will reinstall it once he see the light and hitches up the PP a few times.

Blue Ox has a couple of interesting ideas to compete with Reese. Watch the video and you will see who they are aiming at.

http://www.blueox.com/p-1181-swaypro.aspx

Not sure I see additional load to one bar as an effective damping of sway. Ring Down by opposing bars is a prolonged way to reduce sway. More of an after thought once sway starts than a stopping mechanism.
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #2033
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Close but no Cigar. The shipping weight of the Andersen complete is under 70 lbs. You forgot the bars, chains, and brackets.

Thanks for the idea of buying 2 with one for me but i am tying to buy Doug'. I think he won't sell it because deep down he knows he will reinstall it once he see the light and hitches up the PP a few times.

Blue Ox has a couple of interesting ideas to compete with Reese. Watch the video and you will see who they are aiming at.

SwayPro By Blue Ox

Not sure I see additional load to one bar as an effective damping of sway. Ring Down by opposing bars is a prolonged way to reduce sway. More of an after thought once sway starts than a stopping mechanism.
Aw come on Howie....cut me a few pounds slack here ! That's why I stated "the head" weighs 68 pounds ! Because it's the part we pick up all the time. True....the bars add another 12 pounds. Helps me build my popeye muscles.
Michael needs to get back with me on some magical paint too....that is a flaw in the blue ox ointment.... I saw a few specks of rust on it the other day. Oh no....what to do !?
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You don't understand. This is a fight to the finish with no prisoners taken. We have been besieged by those from the Evil Empire that are spreading all manors of false information in order to stop the HAHA killer from taking over the towing industry.

By the way the Andersen head never comes off my TV. No reason to aggravate my old back.

I started this thread because I found a hitch with unique ideas that solved several problems was have. Once I installed it and confirmed my thoughts I offered the thread for those that might also be interested in a new approach.

For some reason 3 or 4 have taken up the cause to attempt to discredit the concept even while admitting they are using or have used the hitch in what they see as limited usage. Feel free to continue to add reliant information. However if you just want to bash the Andersen see if you can convince the others to start a Bashing Thread of it's own.
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Gmw, nice joke. Thank you for your contribution to this Andersen WD system "users" thread. Sorry but requirements not met. Too heavy and they rust. However if you would like to cut me a check I would be happy to consider your recommendation.
I found a can of black high temp header paint hiding in a corner of the garage I think it will work just fine. That will take care of my only current personal problem with my Andersen WD system.
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Gmw, nice joke. Thank you for your contribution to this Andersen WD system "users" thread. Sorry but requirements not met. Too heavy and they rust. However if you would like to cut me a check I would be happy to consider your recommendation.
I found a can of black high temp header paint hiding in a corner of the garage I think it will work just fine. That will take care of my only current personal problem with my Andersen WD system.
Always glad to help Michael , in this Andersen "USERS" thread ! I figure at something over several thousand posts so far regarding this device, it's all pretty much been said ( over, and over....and over .... ) ....so I might as well throw a bit of levity into the mix. The only thing we can "really" say about this whole thing is there are some folks who will defend this hitch to the death, some will castigate it endlessly, and others ( like myself ) will just go on scratching our heads.
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Gmw, I wish a few others had your attitude. Keep smilling.
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I had the first horse in this race since I started this thread. If you go back to the early posts you will not that I questioned several things in the manual and or offered suggestions for mechanical improvements.

Yes this a newer approach to and old problem and yes often newer approaches go through a period of improvements. Let see what has happened towards that end since this thread was posted.

1. The coupler on your trailer may not withstand the forces applied by the Andersen so you may need to change it.

Is this a problem with the hitch or a problem with the coupler? Clearly the coupler. When digital tv came out and yu had to buy a convertor box to run your old tv was that a problem with the revolution of digital tv or you tv.

2. The chains wear into the square brackets and may fail as result.

This has been addressed in manufacturing by changing the angle

3. The brackets may slip on your trailer's tongue and reduce weight distribution if not welded on.

They will slip if not tightened to the indicated torque. For those that have had them slip several simple user installable suggestions have been made to prevent this.

4. If you have a large trailer with a heavy tongue weight, the Andersen my not be able to distribute the weight properly.

For some reason most of those mentioning this condition are all towing or towed mid range trailers. I am towing a 34 fter and can say it is a vast improvement over the Reese systems, note both Duel cam and Straight line hitches that I had used for years.

5. The anti-sway "brake" material may fail and need replacement prematurely.

This is a current issue reported by 2 users at this point and one that currently does not have any rational explanation. However unlike those more expensive systems it is covered by a LIFE TIME warranty and given the level of cooperation demonstrated by Andersen to date will be covered until a result or explanation is found.

As with any new approach to a problem there will be issues. Some will shy away for the slightest reason, others will see the potential, and work with it. Goddard was questioned or feared by many in our countries leadership. However luckily some saw the potential.

Andersen has made other changes not mentioned as a problem above. I suggested this one after my after I had modified the shaft by installing a roll pin.

They have modified the bottom of the ball shank to limit movement should one raise the jack thus lifting the trailer while hitched.

Mike

Fear not had also had the problem of rust on the plate and found that there is a product called spray paint that seams to solve the problem for a period of time.

Now maybe we can limit our discussion to ongoing problems or new issues should they present themselves rather than spilt milk.

Gotcha. Helpful!
I'm an early adopter in a different category, so I can understand entirely your comments about new approaches and finding ways to make work. I look forward to learning more about the Andersen and seeing how it gets improved.

Thanks!
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I am crushed. I was looking at my Andersen WD system this morning and found rust on the base plate. I guess I should pull the system off before it falls apart. The whole system could self-destruct any minute now. I would not want my coupler to come disconnected from the receiver and leave me bleeding in a lonely ditch.
Can anyone recommend to me a 100% perfect in every way replacement.
Minimum requirements: under 70lbs, under $500, greaseless, quiet, build in anti-sway, outstanding company support and of course 100% weight distribution with any TV/trailer combination.
Weird post. Anything additive to offer?
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I believe Michael was being facetious Terry. Your homework assignment for the evening is to read all 2038 previous posts. Don't skip any of them. Then it will be clear ( as mud ) to you.
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I believe Michael was being facetious Terry. Your homework assignment for the evening is to read all 2038 previous posts. Don't skip any of them. Then it will be clear ( as mud ) to you.
Lol! Ok will try to do that
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Yep, just joking.
Terry, you realy should take the time ro read the thread. You might then have a clue about what the discussion is all about and why people have developed the attitudes they have.
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I believe Michael was being facetious Terry. Your homework assignment for the evening is to read all 2038 previous posts. Don't skip any of them. Then it will be clear ( as mud ) to you.
Actually, you could simply read the first or last two hundred posts ten times. The cast might change slightly, but the play is the same. Not many "users" left, they have hitched up and gone camping. From the shores of Lake Erie where the temp is 72 degrees.
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I am crushed. I was looking at my Andersen WD system this morning and found rust on the base plate. I guess I should pull the system off before it falls apart. The whole system could self-destruct any minute now. I would not want my coupler to come disconnected from the receiver and leave me bleeding in a lonely ditch.
Can anyone recommend to me a 100% perfect in every way replacement.
Minimum requirements: under 70lbs, under $500, greaseless, quiet, build in anti-sway, outstanding company support and of course 100% weight distribution with any TV/trailer combination.
And once all these are meet than we can turn to finding the perfect tow vehicle, travel trailer, coupler, tounge jack, tires, rims, and the list goes on and on and on. As for the rust on the base plate, or any other part for that matter, I like Krylon Fusion. Just clean off the rust and paint, no priming.
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