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Old 06-18-2013, 09:11 PM   #2017
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Terry, that list is one persons opinion and not necessarly a 100 per cent correct one.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:22 PM   #2018
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Terry, welcome to the discussion. Standing by for your next contribution.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:25 PM   #2019
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I bought this hitch for its light weight, low cost, and rave reviews. There is no perfect hitch, everything is a compromise. The commonly called upgrade from this hitch, a Propride, is a significant hit to the wallet and is really heavy. My Airstream and this hitch just fit within the hitch rating of my TV. A Propride requires purchase of a 3/4 ton truck just to deal with the extra hitch weight.

Like others I'm none to pleased to have to swap out my coupler due to the Anderson long term compatibility issue.
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Terry, that list is one persons opinion and not necessarly a 100 per cent correct one.
Fair enough. It read as though it was a summation of several experiences but its possible I misinterpreted.

In any case, even those who seem more in the "middle" on this hitch seem to be sharing some concerns.

In full disclosure, I'm very new to all of this and as such, am rather ignorant on the topic. I was just commenting --maybe unfairly-- that there were posts that seemed to really badger people who critiqued it and for the person parachuting into the conversation, that reads a little odd. After all, there has to be a basic premise that opinions are subjective and experiences vary, yes?
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New to this thread tonight. Fascinating. And for what it's worth, if the above is true, seems like good reason to stay away from this equipment.
Terry.

Steve and I are both users of this hitch. I got rid of it, he still uses it on his Casita, a small fiberglass trailer. We agree this is the only reasonable application for it. We both concur with his list of Andersen deficiencies.

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Old 06-19-2013, 08:59 AM   #2022
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I am crushed. I was looking at my Andersen WD system this morning and found rust on the base plate. I guess I should pull the system off before it falls apart. The whole system could self-destruct any minute now. I would not want my coupler to come disconnected from the receiver and leave me bleeding in a lonely ditch.
Can anyone recommend to me a 100% perfect in every way replacement.
Minimum requirements: under 70lbs, under $500, greaseless, quiet, build in anti-sway, outstanding company support and of course 100% weight distribution with any TV/trailer combination.
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Terry

I had the first horse in this race since I started this thread. If you go back to the early posts you will not that I questioned several things in the manual and or offered suggestions for mechanical improvements.

Yes this a newer approach to and old problem and yes often newer approaches go through a period of improvements. Let see what has happened towards that end since this thread was posted.

1. The coupler on your trailer may not withstand the forces applied by the Andersen so you may need to change it.

Is this a problem with the hitch or a problem with the coupler? Clearly the coupler. When digital tv came out and yu had to buy a convertor box to run your old tv was that a problem with the revolution of digital tv or you tv.

2. The chains wear into the square brackets and may fail as result.

This has been addressed in manufacturing by changing the angle

3. The brackets may slip on your trailer's tongue and reduce weight distribution if not welded on.

They will slip if not tightened to the indicated torque. For those that have had them slip several simple user installable suggestions have been made to prevent this.

4. If you have a large trailer with a heavy tongue weight, the Andersen my not be able to distribute the weight properly.

For some reason most of those mentioning this condition are all towing or towed mid range trailers. I am towing a 34 fter and can say it is a vast improvement over the Reese systems, note both Duel cam and Straight line hitches that I had used for years.

5. The anti-sway "brake" material may fail and need replacement prematurely.

This is a current issue reported by 2 users at this point and one that currently does not have any rational explanation. However unlike those more expensive systems it is covered by a LIFE TIME warranty and given the level of cooperation demonstrated by Andersen to date will be covered until a result or explanation is found.

As with any new approach to a problem there will be issues. Some will shy away for the slightest reason, others will see the potential, and work with it. Goddard was questioned or feared by many in our countries leadership. However luckily some saw the potential.

Andersen has made other changes not mentioned as a problem above. I suggested this one after my after I had modified the shaft by installing a roll pin.

They have modified the bottom of the ball shank to limit movement should one raise the jack thus lifting the trailer while hitched.

Mike

Fear not had also had the problem of rust on the plate and found that there is a product called spray paint that seams to solve the problem for a period of time.

Now maybe we can limit our discussion to ongoing problems or new issues should they present themselves rather than spilt milk.


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So there you go folks, yet another "issue" with the Andersen hitch.

Lets see if I have them all in order.

1. The coupler on your trailer may not withstand the forces applied by the Andersen so you may need to change it.

2. The chains wear into the square brackets and may fail as result.

3. The brackets may slip on your trailer's tongue and reduce weight distribution if not welded on.

4. If you have a large trailer with a heavy tongue weight, the Andersen my not be able to distribute the weight properly.

5. The anti-sway "brake" material may fail and need replacement prematurely.

Did I miss any "issues"? And, while this thread is only a year old, that's like brand new in the life of a weight distribution hitch design life.
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I have worked thru points 1-3 and they are not an issue for me. As for point 4, my trailer weighs about 6800 lbs and tongue weight is 825. I can consistantly get back to within 60 to100 pounds of unloaded front axle weight. If I crank it down, the best I can get is with 30 lbs. I never got 100% with my HaHa and could not unless I went to heavier bars. I am happy with that at 100 and it tows very well. As for wear, it is going to happen. Ever seen a HaHa after a few years of towing? I can post pic's of my broke one and also the other worn parts if you want. Many elongated holes.
Your point 5 is a big deal. I can not fix that myself so I am looking to Andersen to get that right. I fully expect they will. If not, I'll take it off, find another hitch and let you know.
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Follow up:
I called Andersen Monday and they are shipping a new sleeve. It should be here Friday. No hassles at all and all solved with 1 call. I suppose you can check off # 5 now Steve.
My next trip is scheduled for the end of July so another update will be coming after that unless I have issues putting the new sleeve in.
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Howie, is there a factory approved touch up paint that I should use or will just any run of the mill paint work? Will the use of an unapproved paint void my warranty? I was thanking day-glow orange. I think I have a can or two lying around the garage. Do other WD systems rust? If so, sounds like a major defect in the engineering and manufacturing process.
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Joe, does the sleeve look like it will easily slip in and out? I am assuming (dangerous thing to do) it is press fit. Hopefully no special tools will be required.
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Howie, is there a factory approved touch up paint that I should use or will just any run of the mill paint work? Will the use of an unapproved paint void my warranty? I was thanking day-glow orange. I think I have a can or two lying around the garage. Do other WD systems rust? If so, sounds like a major defect in the engineering and manufacturing process.
OSHA. I think they requires Yellow on the exterior of a mechanical hazard and Orange on the inside so I guess you have an unexpected out of pocket expense here that may become the 7th open issue.

I would hold off for a bit. I suspect the Do Gooders will have the Andersen elevated to the level of fracking shortly and we will have to go back to the towing equivalent of vertical drilling.

But then again I doubt that they will be able to stop that revolution or this one. There is too much "riding" on it.
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Just slip old one out and put new one in. Weight of trailer presses it in is my understanding Chief.
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O'no, I don't have any yellow. I do have a can of day-glow green, pretty close to yellow. I would not want to upset OSHA, they might sick the IRS on me.
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Joe, let us know how the swap goes. Also guessing you will be getting the new red liner.
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